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On Hannity and Colmes there was video of a smuggler of illegal aliens taking a swing at a Minuteman videotaping. They spoke with the man who was running the tape.Alan Colmes was upset that a Minuteman would videotape the smuggler, instead of just sitting on the border. Then Alan tried to tell the Minuteman he should have left it to the police instead of video taping himself. (When we know the police are tied up with other work and in some cases are told not to arrest illegals.) It was like Alan was playing the role of defense attorney for the violent smuggler.
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White House Spokesman Tony Snow was on The Rush Limbaugh Show this afternoon to discuss his job, but more importantly the illegal immigration issue. Rush spent more than 25 of this 45 minutes with Snow grilling him on the White House’s stance on the problem. Snow did not do a good job in defending what the White House would like to do, giving illegal immigrants amnesty after several benchmarks have been met. Snow also defended the so-called national ID card that would be used to track and identify illegals that have been granted temporary citizenship on their way to amnesty. Here is how Snow described it:
RUSH: Well why should we believe that there is going to be enforcement now when there hasn’t been since ’86, there hasn’t been—- Simpson-Mazzoli, because the enforcement appears to be voluntary on the illegals; they have to show up to pay the fine, they have to show up to go to the back of the line, they have to show up to do this, now they have to show up to get this card, this I.D. card. What –Snow responds:
SNOW: …….. You and I have seen places in our neighborhoods and elsewhere, where guys are probably illegal. They get to work early, they do all this stuff, but they’re illegal. Now if all the sudden somebody shows up and says show me your cards and they don’t have it, that does change behavior.
In layman’s terms, Tony says that employers can only hire those with proper identification and it is up to the government to make sure that the soon to be American citizens have that card. This sounds an awful lot like the current situation with fake identification.
In the latter part of this segment, Rush completely grills Tony on the Ed Meese piece saying the Simpson-Mazzoli bill (which granted illegals amnesty in 1986) is no different than what the White House is proposing right now:
RUSH: The history of this [is] it takes 20 years. Every 20 years, it metastasizes and gets to the point where people will notice it and it becomes a burden in their lives that they can’t explain. They don’t understand why illegal doesn’t mean anything; they don’t understand why they’re called nativists. Tony, politically, I know I’m talking about what’s coming out the Senate now, it clearly is amnesty, there is no other way to describe it.—-SNOW:—- Well ..
RUSH:—- Now, just wait a second. It seems to me to be a death nail for the Republican party. We have Republicans going along, this is nothing more than a plan to get future Democrat voters in the country.
SNOW: Two things. Number one, the 1986 bill, you remember the one that first granted amnesty to three million illegals? You know what they characterized the level of crime it was to cross the border? A misdemeanor. You know what they listed as the penalty? Nothing. So for 20 years it was a misdemeanor, by the way, there is no punishment for it.
RUSH: Wait, wait, wait. That’s not what Ed Meese said. Ed Meese in the New York Times piece yesterday said he looks at the legislation today versus Simpson-Mazzoli and seems practically identical.
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President Bush has granted interviews to news organizations such as FOX News, CNN, and MSNBC. Bush told FOX News’ Carl Cameron that the Mexican government has a “duty to enforce their side of the border”. CNN’s asks for President Bush’s response to calls that there are “racist overtones” in this debate. Bush disagrees and says “we must enforce our border”.
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YAHOO – Mexico said Tuesday that it would file lawsuits in U.S. courts if National Guard troops on the border become directly involved in detaining migrants.Mexican border officials also said they worried that sending troops to heavily trafficked regions would push illegal migrants into more perilous areas of the U.S.-Mexican border to avoid detection.
President Bush announced Monday that he would send 6,000 National Guard troops to the 2,000-mile border, but they would provide intelligence and surveillance support to Border Patrol agents, not catch and detain illegal immigrants.
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On tonight’s “Most Ridiculous Item” segment, O’Reilly called Howard Dean a liar when he said President Bush wants “to find twelve million undocumented people” and “send them all back” on Monday night’s edition of The Daily Show. Actually, President Bush has never advocated sending illegal immigrants back. Here’s the line:
Here’s the big difference between us [Democrats] and the right-wing bill that passed the House with the President’s support. This is a President who can’t find a six-foot four Saudi terrorist, how is he going to find twelve million undocumented people and send them all back across the border? That’s what he wants to do.
However, there is more ridiculousness; O’Reilly had FOX News Contributor and Harvard Lecturer Marvin Kalb on his radio show. Kalb said Dean did not lie, but when O’Reilly asks him if he thinks he lied, Kalb doesn’t call O’Reilly a liar. Watch and listen.
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On the President’s vision for comprehensive immigration reform:
“We are a Nation of laws, and we must enforce our laws. We are also a Nation of immigrants, and we must uphold that tradition, which has strengthened our country in so many ways. These are not contradictory goals – America can be a lawful society and a welcoming society at the same time. We will fix the problems created by illegal immigration, and we will deliver a system that is secure, orderly, and fair.”
On Border Security:
“Since I became President, we have increased funding for border security by 66 percent, and expanded the Border Patrol from about 9,000 to 12,000 agents. . . .we have apprehended and sent home about six million people entering America illegally.
“Despite this progress, we do not yet have full control of the border, and I am determined to change that. Tonight I am calling on Congress to provide funding for dramatic improvements in manpower and technology at the border.”
On the Importance of a Temporary Worker Program to relieve pressure on the border:
“The reality is that there are many people on the other side of our border who will do anything to come to America to work and build a better life. They walk across miles of desert in the summer heat, or hide in the back of 18-wheelers to reach our country. This creates enormous pressure on our border that walls and patrols alone will not stop. To secure the border effectively we must reduce the numbers of people trying to sneak across.”
On enforcing our laws:
“. . . we need to hold employers to account for the workers they hire. It is against the law to hire someone who is in this country illegally. Yet businesses often cannot verify the legal status of their employees, because of the widespread problem of document fraud. Therefore, comprehensive immigration reform must include a better system for verifying documents and work eligibility . . .
“A tamper-proof card would help us enforce the law – and leave employers with no excuse for violating it. And by making it harder for illegal immigrants to find work in our country, we would discourage people from crossing the border illegally in the first place.”
On the President’s opposition to amnesty:
“. . . we must face the reality that millions of illegal immigrants are already here. They should not be given an automatic path to citizenship. This is amnesty, and I oppose it. Amnesty would be unfair to those who are here lawfully – and it would invite further waves of illegal immigration.”
On assimilation:
“. . . we must honor the great American tradition of the melting pot, which has made us one Nation out of many peoples. The success of our country depends upon helping newcomers assimilate into our society, and embrace our common identity as Americans. Americans are bound together by our shared ideals, an appreciation of our history, respect for the flag we fly, and an ability to speak and write the English language.”
On the tone of the debate:
“We must always remember that real lives will be affected by our debates and decisions, and that every human being has dignity and value no matter what their citizenship papers say.”
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On this morning’s edition of Face the Nation, host and CBS Evening News anchor Bob Schieffer asked National Security Advisor Stephen Hadley the President’s primetime oval office speech tomorrow on illegal immigration. President Bush is expected to announce that he is sending National Guardsmen to the border. Schieffer said people may get the idea of National Guardsmen “shooting Mexican immigrants as they’re coming across the border”:
SCHIEFFER: Let me shift quickly to another subject. The president’s going to make a speech on Monday on immigration. We are told—in fact, the lead story on the “CBS Evening News” and a couple of the other networks Friday, was that the administration has been considering plans to bring the National Guard into this, and to use the National Guard rather extensively. Now, a lot of people have a picture here, and I want to ask you about this: Are you planning to station armed National Guard troops on the border? I mean, I think a lot of people can see this picture of our National Guardsmen shooting Mexican immigrants as they’re coming across the border. Is that what’s about to happen here?
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