August 1, 2006
Representative John Dingell, a Democrat (no surprise there right? ) from Michigan – no surprise here either with Hezb’Allah firmly ensconced in Dearbornistan here and here) appeared on a Detroit television program Sunday alongside Republican Congresswoman Candice Miller. After Dingell said he would not take sides in the current Israeli – Hezbollah conflict, the host asked “so you’re not against Hezbollah?” Rep. Dingell replied with a resounding “no.”
This coming from one of the eight members of Congress who VOTED AGAINST a resolution supporting Israel.
UPDATE: Dingell said he was against the violence, not the entire organization of Hezbollah:
Q: You’re not against Hezbollah?
DINGELL: No, I happen to be — I happen to be against violence, I think the United States has to bring resolution to this matter. Now, I condemn Hezbollah as does everybody else, for the violence.
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11:50 am [ Quote ]
Thanks for your dishonesty, Ian. The entire exchange makes clear the point Rep. Dingell was trying to convey:
Q: You’re not against Hezbollah?
DINGELL: No, I happen to be — I happen to be against violence, I think the United States has to bring resolution to this matter. Now, I condemn Hezbollah as does everybody else, for the violence.
Better luck next time…
11:52 am [ Quote ]
Wasn’t the quote something like :”No, I happen to be against violence. I think the United States has to bring a resolution to this matter. Now I condemn Hezbollah just everybody else for the violence.”
11:55 am [ Quote ]
Alright, let’s hear it for moral equivalence!
Today’s Middle East conflict is not just George Bush carrying out his own private Crusade against Islam, as the NYT and DailyKos would have us believe.
The threat from worldwide Islamic terrorism, flowing out on Iranian and Saudi oil money, is a threat to freedom and democracy everywhere. Note the targets have not just been the US, UK, Israel and Spain—but also Bali, Indonesia, Jordan, Chechnya, Western China, and India. If you believe “they hate us because of our imperialism,” then ask yourself: If the US totally pulled out of the Middle East tomorrow, and Israel picked up and moved to Europe—would the terror threat to the West, India, etc. go away? Hell, no!
12:02 pm [ Quote ]
Powerline Uses Chopped Audio Clip to Smear Rep. John Dingell As Hezbollah Apologist
Typical Right…Down in the gutter
Asked, “You’re not against Hezbollah?” Dingell answers, “No…”
Here’s what Dingell actually said:
Q: You’re not against Hezbollah?
DINGELL: No, I happen to be — I happen to be against violence, I think the United States has to bring resolution to this matter. Now, I condemn Hezbollah as does everybody else, for the violence.
http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/01/powerline-dingell/
12:05 pm [ Quote ]
Nice try, HappySmokerUK.
Won’t work.
Keep your day job.
12:09 pm [ Quote ]
Nice try, HappySmokerUK.
Won’t work.
Keep your day job.
?????????
12:13 pm [ Quote ]
HappySmokerUK: Comrade Dingell said he was NOT againt Hezbollah! Yes, he qualified it that he was against their acts of violence; but to be against their murderous acts of violence and not the organization that perpetrates those acts of violence is a difference without any significance. You cannot be against violence and at the same time not be opposed to those who commit those acts of violence. As they say down South, ‘that dog won’t hunt!’
William Jefferson’s Money Launderer: Excellent post!
12:17 pm [ Quote ]
All Democrats are for Hezbollah, it’s anti-Bush and anti-American just like them!
12:26 pm [ Quote ]
All Democrats are for Hezbollah, it’s anti-Bush and anti-American just like them!
yawn don’t you get tired of howdy-doody charactitures?
12:29 pm [ Quote ]
[...] Expose The Left [...]
12:33 pm [ Quote ]
I think Howler Dean needs to keep this man from talking, as he is obviously an anti-semite for failing to condemn hezbollah.
That statement is coming around to bite you in the ass, Deano. Perhaps you need to call up Maliki and apologize…or explain your hypocrisy. Libs, you couldnt make stuff up thats stranger than what they do.
12:36 pm [ Quote ]
HappySmokerUK: Comrade Dingell said he was NOT againt Hezbollah! Yes, he qualified it that he was against their acts of violence; but to be against their murderous acts of violence and not the organization that perpetrates those acts of violence is a difference without any significance. You cannot be against violence and at the same time not be opposed to those who commit those acts of violence. As they say down South, ‘that dog won’t hunt!’
William Jefferson’s Money Launderer: Excellent post!
So why did Powerline feel the need to edit the clip?
All Democrats are for Hezbollah, it’s anti-Bush and anti-American just like them!
yawn don’t you get tired of howdy-doody charactitures?
Yaaaaaaaaaaaawn
12:40 pm [ Quote ]
HappySmokerUK: Comrade Dingell said he was NOT againt Hezbollah! Yes, he qualified it that he was against their acts of violence; but to be against their murderous acts of violence and not the organization that perpetrates those acts of violence is a difference without any significance. You cannot be against violence and at the same time not be opposed to those who commit those acts of violence. As they say down South, ‘that dog won’t hunt!’
William Jefferson’s Money Launderer: Excellent post!
So why did Powerline feel the need to edit the clip?
All Democrats are for Hezbollah, it’s anti-Bush and anti-American just like them!
yawn don’t you get tired of howdy-doody charactitures?
Yaaaaaaaaaaaawn
Didn’t you all have a huge fit when Bill Bennet was taken extremely out of context for his aborting black babies remark, which right afterwards he said that would be terrible and disgusting. The left had no problem taking him out of context there.
12:47 pm [ Quote ]
Watching the resident libs try desperately to positively frame this idiots remarks is a hoot, why cant you goofs ever manage to distance yourself from statements like this?
Even DNC Dean himself supposedly wont accept such intransigence.
12:49 pm [ Quote ]
Framing? Try listening to what the congressman actually said. I know facts are difficult to deal with for those on the right, but try. Just try. Listen.
12:52 pm [ Quote ]
I have lived in Michigan and this piece of crap is a terrorist enabling scumbag. He is nothing but an arab pandering asswipe so he can keep his job.
12:57 pm [ Quote ]
“Do you condemn hz?”
“No. I condemn them for the violence.”
Not for their advocation of genocide, not for their past crimes, not for their desire for Israel to disappear violently, not for being terrorists, not for faking civilian deaths, not for putting their own people in harms way…not for all the things they do as the terrorist organization that they are.
But hey, you just keep thinking that this moral equivalence will gain traction and see you at the voting booth. America is watching, you lose. Again.
1:15 pm [ Quote ]
[...] Expose The Left [...]
1:27 pm [ Quote ]
Bob: When Bennett made the original statement he was quoting somone else and at the time made it clear it was an extreme example to demonstrate the absurdity of the proposal. It was the MSM that made it into something it was not!
1:35 pm [ Quote ]
I have lived in Michigan and this piece of crap is a terrorist enabling scumbag. He is nothing but an arab pandering asswipe so he can keep his job.
You mean panderers in the fashion of this administration, who allowed control of a number of our ports to the UAE, which clearly is anti Semitic in their failing to recognize Israel AND which also has an, at best, questionable record with regard to terror? Is that the type of pandering you mean?
2:05 pm [ Quote ]
“Do you condemn hz?”
“No. I condemn them for the violence.”
Not for their advocation of genocide, not for their past crimes, not for their desire for Israel to disappear violently, not for being terrorists, not for faking civilian deaths, not for putting their own people in harms way…not for all the things they do as the terrorist organization that they are.
But hey, you just keep thinking that this moral equivalence will gain traction and see you at the voting booth. America is watching, you lose. Again.
Condemning Hezbollah for its violence is automatically a condemnation of all those things you stated since they are all violent in nature.
In any case, this is just plain silly. Ian, don’t you have anything better to do? You’ve exposed nothing else but your poor skill of selective editing.
2:20 pm [ Quote ]
Zim: I am sorry but this time I believe you are wrong.
1. Dingell was asked and he replied, “so you’re not against Hezbollah?” Rep. Dingell replied with a resounding “no.” So, let us be clear that he said he was not against the terrorist organization known as Hezbollah.
2. Yes, he said he was against the violence of Hezbollah, but Ian was right, you cannot say you are against the murderous, terrorism of a certain group and at the same time say you are not against the group. You might as well say, “I am not agsinst Al Queda and Bin Laden, I am only against the violence they perpetrate! It is nonsense! It is a difference without any significance.
If I am wrong, tell me how you divorce the policy and acts of violence of a terrorist organization with the organization itself!
2:26 pm [ Quote ]
If I am wrong, tell me how you divorce the policy and acts of violence of a terrorist organization with the organization itself!
To be honest, I also don’t get that. Perhaps he is not against the social services that Hezbollah provides? If he is a pacifist, that’d would definately explain his statement, since pacifists are indeed not against anybody, but against the use of violence to achieve ANY goals.
In any case, the argument that this guy supports Hezbollah still has nowhere to stand on. The selective editing is downright cheap and in reality, an insult to the audience – just like any other conscious effort to mislead.
2:40 pm [ Quote ]
Zim: Okay, I respect your opinion; but if I and others see Dingell’s statement exactly as Ian did, that Dingell did not disavow support for Hezbollah, then are we all dishonest and deliberately trying to mislead? I think this is truly an honest difference of opinion, without implying any disrespect for your views.
2:47 pm [ Quote ]
There would be no need to debate what he said, the meaning of what he said, the underlying meaning of what he said, if the interview had gone as follows:
Q: You’re not against Hezbollah?
DINGELL: Yes, of course I am.
But that would be a straightforward answer that would offend his muslim constituents, and he knew it. Wow, now were pandering for Hezbollah votes here in America.
Dingell muddied the waters with his political double speak. Too bad he lacked the courage to come out and say what needed to be said.
2:49 pm [ Quote ]
DINGELL: No, I happen to be — I happen to be against violence, I think the United States has to bring resolution to this matter. Now, I condemn Hezbollah as does everybody else, for the violence.
Lefty Limey as usual is wrong.
Ding-bell is against the violence that Hezbollah is using, not against Hezbollah. That is extremely obvious to anyone who has logical sense of reasoning power.
It’s a sad day for the Left when Anti-Semitism becomes an unacceptable behavior.
Luckily there is still Europe!
3:03 pm [ Quote ]
DINGELL: No, I happen to be — I happen to be against violence, I think the United States has to bring resolution to this matter. Now, I condemn Hezbollah as does everybody else, for the violence.
Lefty Limey as usual is wrong.
Ding-bell is against the violence that Hezbollah is using, not against Hezbollah. That is extremely obvious to anyone who has logical sense of reasoning power.
It’s a sad day for the Left when Anti-Semitism becomes an unacceptable behavior.
Luckily there is still Europe!
How exactly am I wrong poverty pimp?
All I did was post what Dingell said…Including the part PowerPoint edited out….I’ve not once expressed an opinion on this post agreeing/disagreeing with what he said.
3:03 pm [ Quote ]
Luckily there is still Europe!
Not for long, as least in its current incarnation.
As we speak, England is considering reforming its national education standards, including not teaching kids their anglo-saxon heritage…all in an effort not to offend their burgeoning and unassimilated muslim population.
Another nail in the coffin of europe. Im going to miss Boddingtons.
3:08 pm [ Quote ]
When I said
Luckily there is still Europe
I was referring to there still being somewhere that being Anti-Semetic is still acceptable behavior for the left, besides KOS-ickstan.
3:09 pm [ Quote ]
How exactly am I wrong poverty pimp?
All I did was post what Dingell said…Including the part PowerPoint edited out….I’ve not once expressed an opinion on this post agreeing/disagreeing with what he said.
HSUK,
you should know by now that unelss you unconditionally support all of Israel’s actions, than you are an anti-semite. Also, if you don’t explicitly state that you do, than you must be a Hezbollah supporter and therefore a terrorist.
3:30 pm [ Quote ]
How exactly am I wrong poverty pimp?
All I did was post what Dingell said…Including the part PowerPoint edited out….I’ve not once expressed an opinion on this post agreeing/disagreeing with what he said.
HSUK,
you should know by now that unelss you unconditionally support all of Israel’s actions, than you are an anti-semite. Also, if you don’t explicitly state that you do, than you must be a Hezbollah supporter and therefore a terrorist.
Zim, your spot on…For a split second I thought I was talking to normal thinking people.
@Ray Charles
Thanks for bring up Boddingtons…it reminded me that I bought some Old Peculier today and it will nicely dull the brain to the nonsense I read here.
3:39 pm [ Quote ]
A Democrat supporting/defending the Enemy of Freedom and Values??? No way.. (That was sarcasm if you are keeping score).
7:31 pm [ Quote ]
Ian, you should work for the administration. You competency for the truth would allow you to fit right it….
8:29 pm [ Quote ]
Bob: When Bennett made the original statement he was quoting somone else and at the time made it clear it was an extreme example to demonstrate the absurdity of the proposal. It was the MSM that made it into something it was not!
What a crock. Bennett claimed, after the event, to have been quoting Freakenomics – and if you, or Bennett, actually bothered to read that book, the authors explcitly deny any racial component in their analysis. Yet Bennett turns it into Abort Black Babies = Reduce Crime.
Racism, pure and simple.
10:22 pm [ Quote ]
How can you seperate Hezbollah and violence? Are they not one and the same?
10:30 pm [ Quote ]
[...] All the polls say it’s possible – even likely – but when you’re running against a party whose leaders won’t condemn Hezbollah, is there any chance that the American people will put them in power? [...]
3:52 am [ Quote ]
How can you seperate Hezbollah and violence? Are they not one and the same?
Hezbollah help run schools, hospitals, social services, municipal services and provides various other infrastructural support to the people of Lebanon. Many Hezbollah poltical party members would have never lifted a weapon, never will.
So no, Hezbollah and violence are not synonomous, despite Israels ongoing attempts to paint them as such.
9:34 am [ Quote ]
[quote]HappySmokerUK Said:
12:02 pm
Powerline Uses Chopped Audio Clip to Smear Rep. John Dingell As Hezbollah Apologist[/quote]
The clip was submitted to them in that manner, and the reason they ran it as-is, is the moral equivalence Dingell shows between Israel and Hezbollah, and that is not contradicted in the interview.
Moreover, Dingell said “our problem is that we must be a fair and honest broker and a friend to all parties. The resolution didn’t make us that. We have to have the trust of both of the people of Israel and the people of the Arab countries around it, in order to help resolve the problem.”
He is equating Hezbollah, a terrorist organization funded by Syria and Iran, with “Arab nations”. There is only one intellectually dishonest person in this bunch, Dingell; everybody else is just suffering from a lack of context.
[quote]You mean panderers in the fashion of this administration, who allowed control of a number of our ports to the UAE, which clearly is anti Semitic in their failing to recognize Israel AND which also has an, at best, questionable record with regard to terror? Is that the type of pandering you mean?[/quote]
UAE has cooperated with the US government against terrorists as much as, if not more than, any other Arab nation to date, and were the first Arab nation to adopt an international inspection standard that inspects cargo at the DEPARTING port rather than the DESTINATION port. And their company would have managed the business aspect of the ports, this notion of “control” is ludicrous on its face.
[quote]All I did was post what Dingell said…Including the part PowerPoint edited out….[/quote]
But then you edited out the part where he equated Hezbollah with an Arab nation.
[quote]Yet Bennett turns it into Abort Black Babies = Reduce Crime.
Racism, pure and simple.[/quote]
This is flatly incorrect. It’s not racism, it’s a statistically accurate absurdity.
[quote]So no, Hezbollah and violence are not synonomous, despite Israels ongoing attempts to paint them as such.[/quote]
Yeah, I’m sure they just made up the hundreds of rockets fired into their cities every day for weeks.
12:37 pm [ Quote ]
So it’s okay for Hezbollah to support the violent among them as long as they build schools and hospitals?
2:46 pm [ Quote ]
So it’s okay for Hezbollah to support the violent among them as long as they build schools and hospitals?
No, but you’re missing the point. Hezbollah is not an organization in the likes of Al Qaeda. I wish the MSM in the US would delve into that, but after watching Fox news for a couple of hours yesterday, I can see why most Americans make no difference.
Hezbollah, as a party, runs a government within a government. As such, they do indeed operate schools, hospitals, social services, etc, and as any other government they also have an armed service.
And to answer your question, no it is not ok to support the violence of Hezbollah simply because they also run schools and hospitals. I have yet to see anyone short of being a complete nut from saying they support the violence of Hezbollah. The point is, it wouldn’t hurt any of us to do some reading and figure out more about the enemy we’re fighting.
5:08 pm [ Quote ]
Hezbollah would have a better image if they policed themselves and did not allow rockets to be shot by people identifying themselves with their qroup.
5:21 pm [ Quote ]
Hezbollah would have a better image if they weren’t being armed by Iran and have supported the Syrian occupation and hurl rockets into Israel and launch attacks on IDF soldiers and bomb US marine barracks and…
11:25 pm [ Quote ]
Not Like Father, Like Son: On Israel/Hezbollah, John Dingell, Sr. is Turning Over in His Grave (My Grandfather Knew)...
By Debbie Schlussel Many have noted Democratic U.S. Congressman John Dingell, Jr.’s outrageous comment, Sunday, on a local Detroit political TV show, that he did not oppose Hezbollah (video here and here). But to those of us who live in…...
3:32 pm [ Quote ]
What is this liberal crap about how Hezbollah provides social services to the poor downtrodden Shiites. Who cares. The German Nazi Reich and the Italian Fascist Regime made the “trains run on time” and raised the living standards of the masses, while at the same time embroiling their nations in catastrophic World War and genocide on a scale never before witnessed in human history. Providing medicine and schools and food to the impoverished does permit a regime to lay claim to decency and morality, as history aptly demonstrates. The bellies of the masses are filled and then they are grabbed by the “genitals” into a cauldron of war.