Asking for a dem’s plan, or what changes they are calling for is like playing ‘Who’s on first’

We are for a change in policy

What change?

To change it, duh

Wait wait wait wait wait!! This is the DNC Communications director?!!?? This is the person who is in charge of communicating with the people?? Pardon me while I HA HAHAHA HAHA HAHAHAHAAHAA choke gag ahem, ok better.

They just aren’t going to learn, like never.

“A list of complaints is not a plan”

The Dem’s plan is basically, vote for us, we’re not them. Vote for change. But exactly what kind of change they tend to hide or dance around. Lots of hyperbole and venting about GWB, but little substance. Change for change sake is foolish. How about some real ideas.

I saw this last nite…..Laura was great! I forget the interview (I think it was with the Code Pink femme), but the line “That’s not a plan, that’s a John Lennon song” was hysterical!

Two things that don’t seem to be addressed on any of the cable shows, or in print by poloticians:

1. If the Dems want to get out of Iraq, what exactly is their plan of action then, besides move the troops to Okinawa, what will be the plan of action, step by step, to move onward and upward with the war on terror, as the war is not over from all reports.

2. I like that we are not “cutting and running”, but what the Bush Administration is not communicating well to the American people is this: here are the mile markers that we are assessing the war on terror with regards to the next steps we take regarding Iraq and our troops.

I think the impatience with some Americans comes from not understanding the dynamics and details of the plan.

We don’t need to know about military tactics, as we need those to be clandestine, but I think most people who seem to be having issue with this war, might calm down if they had an understanding of what we are looking for with regard to understanding the level of success by which we make the next move militarily, either by keeping the same amount of troops, drawing down, or beefing up.

How do we evaluate the success?

Are there specific things that the Administration is looking for to tell them that we are where we need to be?

And what will give a strong indication to the Administration that we are moving closer to our goals? Specific and concrete.

With the Dems, they don’t seem to be able to supply any of us with anything that even remotely looks like a plan; all I hear is a lot of criticism, name-calling and bloviating. If they have a strong step by step plan, they should bring it on. If the Dems are so convinced that they’re right, then I’m sure their plan would resonate with the American people, but my guess is that they don’t.

Right now the only plan the Dems seem to have is more of the same political tactics that are just bloviating and lobbing drive-by media bumper sticker mentality to the MSM.

I wrote this letter to Schumer and Clinton on June 23, 2006 – so far, no response and the subject is as strong as ever.

That’s politicians, not poloticians – typo.

I though she held her own for being interviewed by a (dumb) FUX News whore. She was asked stupid unrelated questions and gave it back pretty well.

http://homepage.mac.com/duffyb/nobush/iMovieTheater324.html

What a bitch Laura is! Of course you dittoheads love her. She talks louder and over and distorts what her guests say like her last comment about the borders. Nice yellow journalism if I ever say it!

Amazing you the fascist right doesn’t even want to hear other viewpoints. Much of lemmings!

Bob, she danced around the questions and didn’t answer anything. Irregardless of you liking/not liking Laura, this woman did not answer one question.

This tactic of being asked a question and then coming back with some sort of distorted counter-factual is not answering the question.

It’s the biggest reason I wrote the letter to my politicians here in NY and then sent it to the White House and Tony Snow.

I’m not sure what you thought you were listening to or if maybe because this is such a pervasive tactic with interviewees(sp) that you’ve grown accustomed to it as normal.

Bob, I ALWAYS want to hear both sides and the link you have in your post is targeted to a far right hate campaign, which is fine, but how is that “hearing both sides”?

But again, this woman did not answer the questions, she just went into her talking points without any substance.

The usual Fox news tactics here…Don’t like what their hearing so just start shouting and talking over the guest.

@Bob
Thanks for the link.

Make up your mind Ian – is this a Michelle Malkin fan site or a Laura whatserface fan site? I vote Michelle – less ugly and her voice doesn’t sound like fozzie bear on an angry pill.

HappySmokerUK on July 29, 2006 at 10:53 am said:

The usual Fox news tactics here…Don’t like what their hearing so just start shouting and talking over the guest.

@Bob
Thanks for the link.

How to you wrestle with the fact that this woman had nothing of substance to offer and avoided answering the questions?

It’s fine, I get it that you dislike FoxNews, but it has nothing to do with this specific interview and this DNC spokeswoman who wouldn’t answer the questions and have an outline for change.

After having heard her speak, what did you glean from her talking points? What specifically will the Dems do regarding Foreign Policy?

As usual the left dosen’t agree than she’s a whore this type of name calling says much more about the caller than the callee.

I just don’t understand why there’s no outrage on the right…al-Maliki comes to the U.S and refuses to denounce a terrorist organisation (Hezbollah)

HappySmokerUK on July 29, 2006 at 11:10 am said:

I just don’t understand why there’s no outrage on the right…al-Maliki comes to the U.S and refuses to denounce a terrorist organisation (Hezbollah)

I guess you just don’t understand politics.

Bob on July 29, 2006 at 10:37 am said:

What a bitch Laura is! Of course you dittoheads love her. She talks louder and over and distorts what her guests say like her last comment about the borders. Nice yellow journalism if I ever say it!

Amazing you the fascist right doesn’t even want to hear other viewpoints. Much of lemmings!

Of course a lefty like Chris Matthews wouild never do an interview in that style. He always gives his conservative guests plenty of time to talk. Right?

Bob on July 29, 2006 at 10:37 am said:

What a bitch Laura is! Of course you dittoheads love her. She talks louder and over and distorts what her guests say like her last comment about the borders. Nice yellow journalism if I ever say it!

Amazing you the fascist right doesn’t even want to hear other viewpoints. Much of lemmings!

Amazing you socialist sheep always repeat the same old evil Fox News crap. CNN good, Fox Bad, bah-bah.

A real interview has become pretty rare these days. If you arent going to answer the questions asked, why go on the show?

I think Dems refuse to give a concrete plan because they are afraid Republicans will steal it. Maybe they are just waiting for their patent to come back?

HappySmokerUK on July 29, 2006 at 11:10 am said:

I just don’t understand why there’s no outrage on the right…al-Maliki comes to the U.S and refuses to denounce a terrorist organisation (Hezbollah)

MR. SNOW: Look, I’m just not going to play the game. I don’t think any of us—what the Prime Minister is doing is he’s playing a pivotal role in the war on terror, and by setting the example, he’s going to make it clear to everybody that democracy can succeed in the region, despite sectarian strife, despite attempts to assert terror, despite being wedged between Iran and Syria.

So I think those are the important points. And again, I don’t know if there are going to be subsequent statements out of his government, or not. He has never said he’s for Hezbollah. So what you’re—so what everybody is complaining about is something that he hasn’t said. And it strikes me that that is an attempt to draw American politics—for American politics to become a consideration, rather than realize—why did he come here? He came here because he’s fighting a war on terror on his own soil.

Q And since he’s an ally, wouldn’t you expect him to speak out about it?

MR. SNOW: You know, we understand that allies have their own concerns, and what we’re not going to do is to say to the Prime Minister, this is what you should say. We’re not going to tell him, we want you to issue a statement against Hezbollah. It’s inappropriate. He’s the head of a sovereign state. He has the ability to say what he thinks, or, if he chooses not to answer the question, he has that right, too.

BTW, in case anyone wants to know, Barry Dangerous is the former Bill McGubbin.

I happen to know this because “Barry” made some completely irrelevant remarks to me on another thread pertaining to the smear merchants, Media Matters.

McGubbin was the only frequent commenter on this site who ever thought that Media Matters was any kind of respectable entity, so it was a dead giveaway that he is now disguising himself with a different username.

I wonder why tough guy Bill had to change his name?

Did his relentless childish insults and name-calling without adding anything of substance to the debate finally catch up to him since NOBODY ever took him seriously?

Laura needs her own show. She is funny, smart and easy on the eyes.

Mulligan22 on July 29, 2006 at 11:16 am said:

HappySmokerUK on July 29, 2006 at 11:10 am said:

I just don’t understand why there’s no outrage on the right…al-Maliki comes to the U.S and refuses to denounce a terrorist organisation (Hezbollah)

I guess you just don’t understand politics.

Didn’t Bush say back in 2001 “You’re either with us or against us in the fight against terror.” looks like al-Maliki is against him.

anaconda on July 29, 2006 at 11:36 am said:

BTW, in case anyone wants to know, Barry Dangerous is the former Bill McGubbin.

I happen to know this because “Barry” made some completely irrelevant remarks to me on another thread pertaining to the smear merchants, Media Matters.

McGubbin was the only frequent commenter on this site who ever thought that Media Matters was any kind of respectable entity, so it was a dead giveaway that he is now disguising himself with a different username.

I wonder why tough guy Bill had to change his name?

Did his relentless childish insults and name-calling without adding anything of substance to the debate finally catch up to him since NOBODY ever took him seriously?

You’re 0 for 2 on that. Seems someone else noticed your hypocrisy. I’d demand an apology but I know your form.

mircat: “Asking for a Dem’s plan, or what changes they are calling for, is like playing ‘Who’s on first?’ We are for a change in policy. What change?”

Exactly.

Bill McGubbin on July 29, 2006 at 11:50 am said:

anaconda on July 29, 2006 at 11:36 am said:

BTW, in case anyone wants to know, Barry Dangerous is the former Bill McGubbin.

I happen to know this because “Barry” made some completely irrelevant remarks to me on another thread pertaining to the smear merchants, Media Matters.

McGubbin was the only frequent commenter on this site who ever thought that Media Matters was any kind of respectable entity, so it was a dead giveaway that he is now disguising himself with a different username.

I wonder why tough guy Bill had to change his name?

Did his relentless childish insults and name-calling without adding anything of substance to the debate finally catch up to him since NOBODY ever took him seriously?

You’re 0 for 2 on that. Seems someone else noticed your hypocrisy. I’d demand an apology but I know your form.

Is there ANY doubt now that Mr. Bill is a proven liar once again?

I never mentioned the word “hypocrisy” in my post #22, but “Barry” did mention the word in the aforementioned thread I was referring to in my last post.

Now, Mr. Bill suddenly “reappears” just FOURTEEN MINUTES after I exposed him to everyone and called him on his complete failure to disguise himself.

Coincidence?

Not hardly.

Tell us another lie, Mr. Bill.

You would have been better off keeping the name “Barry” and denying everything, but I guess you weren’t smart enough to figure that out.

@anaconda
Sit down Sherlock Holmes….Roll yourself a large one….Take a mighty puff…And chill out

Easy on the eyes is right, LI is yumbo.

The earlier poster is correct about people not understanding politics and how it works in this situation.

Maliki is in a precarious spot, leader of an emerging democracy and a shiite, he has to be very careful how he treads.

With the Iraq situation tenuous, why create further tension over something that Iraq really doesnt have a large involvement in? Leave it alone, bark a few platitudes and get on with your own business.

The dems are of course making a mountain out of nothing, but then they dont have much else, so why not?

This segment was NOT about Laura’s personality or that of her guest, it was not about whether someone hates or loves FOX News, it was about two things: (1) How does Howard Dean or others calling people names contribute to the our victory in the war on terror? (2) What is the Democrat plan, with specific details, for winning the war on terror and in handling matters like Iran, North Korea or the Middle East Crisis? Complaining about the Bush administration is NOT a stragegy, it is NOT a plan for victory, it is only selfish, souless, wholly unhelpful carping by small minded, power hungry fools.

Those speaking for the Democratic Party are unable and/or unwilling to answer direct questions with direct, relevant answers. The entire plan of the Democratic Party is this: a. Express Hatred for President Bush as often and as loudly as possible. b. Daily, attack everything President Bush is doing internationally or domestically, and always avoid offering a different plan that the citizens can fairly evaluate. c. Use every crisis or problem to denouce Bush and his policies and NEVER say, even in general terms what the Democrats would do instead.

How does this Democrat Party non-plan contribute to victory over terrorism? The simple truth is, they are fighting against America and the President for purely partisan political advantage; and instead of suggesting clear, specific ways to fight the many fires this nation is facing around the Globe, they are content to sit on the sidelines, in safety, and complain about the Fire Chief and the firemen on the front lines. Meanwhile America burns down in the eyes of the world! Instead of grabbing on to a fire hose and helping put out the fires, they are content to cut the hoses and then complain about the leaks and the inability of our brave firefighters to extinquish the fires. Instead of making positive contributions, they attack those doing the job, engage in useless, pointless, juvenile name calling; and then they yell at the top of their voices, please make us the Fire Chief and firefighters and we’ll to do a better job. “How,” we ask? They answer, “never mind, we’ll tell after you give us the job.” “But,” we reply, “what will you do different, please give us the details?” “Wait,” they reply; “trust us, we have told you every day that Bush is the devil, Cheney is the Prince of Oil Darkness, and our soldiers are all rapists and murderers, so you can rest assured we won’t be! We don’t want to tell you what should be done differently, because quite frankly, we don’t know, just trust us!” Then, they continue, “We’ll negotiate with Bin Laden, Hezbollah, Hamas, the terrorists in Iraq and elsewhere, we’ll appease them like we did Kim Jung Il in North Korea and repeat that success everywhere!”

It is a truth beyond all question that “united we stand and divided we fall;” and the Democrats are only content with sowing the seeds of hate and division. Little do they understand that a house divided against itself cannot stand. But, their lust for power and the chance to advance their socialist agenda is all consuming and it blinds them to the fact that they are, by their divisive, hate filled agenda, insuring our defeat against global terrorism; and they are so comsumed by their hatred of Bush and Republicans, they are incapable of understanding that only if they work with the Administration can we hope to gain victory and keep our nation strong and in leadership for good around the world! Let’s face facts, their return to power is much more important than their love for America!

HappySmokerUK on July 29, 2006 at 12:23 pm said:

@anaconda
Sit down Sherlock Holmes….Roll yourself a large one….Take a mighty puff…And chill out

Sorry Smoker, I don’t smoke.

Tell us another lie, Mr. Bill.

Bush is a wonderful president.

anaconda on July 29, 2006 at 12:49 pm said:

HappySmokerUK on July 29, 2006 at 12:23 pm said:

@anaconda
Sit down Sherlock Holmes….Roll yourself a large one….Take a mighty puff…And chill out

Sorry Smoker, I don’t smoke.

Pity. That would have been an (almost) acceptable defence – delusional while toking….

Umnumzana on July 29, 2006 at 12:44 pm said:

This segment was NOT about Laura’s personality or that of her guest, it was not about whether someone hates or loves FOX News, it was about two things: (1) How does Howard Dean or others calling people names contribute to the our victory in the war on terror? (2) What is the Democrat plan, with specific details, for winning the war on terror and in handling matters like Iran, North Korea or the Middle East Crisis? Complaining about the Bush administration is NOT a stragegy, it is NOT a plan for victory, it is only selfish, souless, wholly unhelpful carping by small minded, power hungry fools.

Those speaking for the Democratic Party are unable and/or unwilling to answer direct questions with direct, relevant answers. The entire plan of the Democratic Party is this: a. Express Hatred for President Bush as often and as loudly as possible. b. Daily, attack everything President Bush is doing internationally or domestically, and always avoid offering a different plan that the citizens can fairly evaluate. c. Use every crisis or problem to denouce Bush and his policies and NEVER say, even in general terms what the Democrats would do instead.

How does this Democrat Party non-plan contribute to victory over terrorism? The simple truth is, they are fighting against America and the President for purely partisan political advantage; and instead of suggesting clear, specific ways to fight the many fires this nation is facing around the Globe, they are content to sit on the sidelines, in safety, and complain about the Fire Chief and the firemen on the front lines. Meanwhile America burns down in the eyes of the world! Instead of grabbing on to a fire hose and helping put out the fires, they are content to cut the hoses and then complain about the leaks and the inability of our brave firefighters to extinquish the fires. Instead of making positive contributions, they attack those doing the job, engage in useless, pointless, juvenile name calling; and then they yell at the top of their voices, please make us the Fire Chief and firefighters and we’ll to do a better job. “How,” we ask? They answer, “never mind, we’ll tell after you give us the job.” “But,” we reply, “what will you do different, please give us the details?” “Wait,” they reply; “trust us, we have told you every day that Bush is the devil, Cheney is the Prince of Oil Darkness, and our soldiers are all rapists and murderers, so you can rest assured we won’t be! We don’t want to tell you what should be done differently, because quite frankly, we don’t know, just trust us!” Then, they continue, “We’ll negotiate with Bin Laden, Hezbollah, Hamas, the terrorists in Iraq and elsewhere, we’ll appease them like we did Kim Jung Il in North Korea and repeat that success everywhere!”

It is a truth beyond all question that “united we stand and divided we fall;” and the Democrats are only content with sowing the seeds of hate and division. Little do they understand that a house divided against itself cannot stand. But, their lust for power and the chance to advance their socialist agenda is all consuming and it blinds them to the fact that they are, by their divisive, hate filled agenda, insuring our defeat against global terrorism; and they are so comsumed by their hatred of Bush and Republicans, they are incapable of understanding that only if they work with the Administration can we hope to gain victory and keep our nation strong and in leadership for good around the world! Let’s face facts, their return to power is much more important than their love for America!

Do you take 2000 words to order a Big Mac and Fries as well? Jesus Tapdancing Christ dude, brevity is the soul of wit.

anaconda on July 29, 2006 at 12:49 pm said:

HappySmokerUK on July 29, 2006 at 12:23 pm said:

@anaconda
Sit down Sherlock Holmes….Roll yourself a large one….Take a mighty puff…And chill out

Sorry Smoker, I don’t smoke.

Well Sherlock…Lets put plan B into action….Pour yourself a large Whiskey….Sit down…Have a swig…And chill out

Bill McGubbin Said:
12:52 pm
“Do you take 2000 words to order a Big Mac and Fries as well? Jesus Tapdancing Christ dude, brevity is the soul of wit.”

LMAO

So its the length of your post that bill disagrees with, umnu, not the content.

Im thinking the poor guy got about ten words into it, discovered he couldnt possibly understand the concepts, cried out “Bah, this is rubbish!” and decided to insult you.

Typical leftist goofenheimer, easily flustered and often confused.

Why do all the lib women look as if they just got dumped by a guy for the nth time? This wild eyed, edge-of-crazy manner they have is creepy, no wonder America is turning its back on the leftholios.

HappySmokerUK on July 29, 2006 at 1:00 pm said:

anaconda on July 29, 2006 at 12:49 pm said:

HappySmokerUK on July 29, 2006 at 12:23 pm said:

@anaconda
Sit down Sherlock Holmes….Roll yourself a large one….Take a mighty puff…And chill out

Sorry Smoker, I don’t smoke.

Well Sherlock…Lets put plan B into action….Pour yourself a large Whiskey….Sit down…Have a swig…And chill out

Bill McGubbin Said:
12:52 pm
“Do you take 2000 words to order a Big Mac and Fries as well? Jesus Tapdancing Christ dude, brevity is the soul of wit.”

LMAO

I’m not much of a drinker, either.

Don’t you have a FNC personality to smear or something?

That’s the only thing you do on this site anyways.

Brevity? Hmmm!

Most Democrats are socialist, defeatist, anti-American twits; and if they had an intelligent thought it would die of loneliness.

I hope that was brief enough!

anaconda on July 29, 2006 at 1:07 pm said:

HappySmokerUK on July 29, 2006 at 1:00 pm said:

anaconda on July 29, 2006 at 12:49 pm said:

HappySmokerUK on July 29, 2006 at 12:23 pm said:

@anaconda
Sit down Sherlock Holmes….Roll yourself a large one….Take a mighty puff…And chill out

Sorry Smoker, I don’t smoke.

Well Sherlock…Lets put plan B into action….Pour yourself a large Whiskey….Sit down…Have a swig…And chill out

Bill McGubbin Said:
12:52 pm
“Do you take 2000 words to order a Big Mac and Fries as well? Jesus Tapdancing Christ dude, brevity is the soul of wit.”

LMAO

I’m not much of a drinker, either.

Don’t you have a FNC personality to smear or something?

That’s the only thing you do on this site anyways.

Your making this difficult Sherlock…Plan C….Go back to bed…Sleep for say an hour…Then try and get out of bed on the left side.

Ingraham seems to be taking over from Bill a lot lately…Maybe Roger has found Bill to be one of those “slackers” he was talking about…I’m thinking the great bag of hot air could be out on his ear in the near future….If this happens I’ll be claiming total victory.

Umnumzana on July 29, 2006 at 1:18 pm said:

Brevity? Hmmm!

Most Democrats are socialist, defeatist, anti-American twits; and if they had an intelligent thought it would die of loneliness.

I hope that was brief enough!

That’s not a very christian thing to say about your fellow Americans.

HappySmokerUK: With Bill’s ratings at near stratospheric levels, you may grow old and grey waiting for your victory! Don’t get me wrong, I rarely watch Bill, I dislike megalomania! But, ratings mean money and money rules the media.

I do see laura getting her own show soon. Can you imagine Brit Hume, O’Reilly, Hannity & Colmes and Laura Ingram? That would be a four hour blockbuster that would put the nails in MSNBC’s coffin and only CNN International, an thoroughly anti-American cable, network would survive.

HappySmokerUK on July 29, 2006 at 1:28 pm said:

Umnumzana on July 29, 2006 at 1:18 pm said:

Brevity? Hmmm!

Most Democrats are socialist, defeatist, anti-American twits; and if they had an intelligent thought it would die of loneliness.

I hope that was brief enough!

That’s not a very christian thing to say about your fellow Americans.

I cannot please you guys, if I use too many words you complain; and then to demonstrate brevity I use 19 words and you still complain!

So, I’ll be charitable, I think Democrats and liberals are really nice people, generous, and kind; although it is sad that most of them are lower on the social order than terrorists, rapists and child molestors! Now don’t say I never said anything good about liberals!

Poor muslim-wannabe euro doesnt seem to have much to say. The art of debate has gone to hell in EUrabia, I see.

You are Christian, arent you umnu? I mean all Americans are Christian just like all europeans are soon to muslims, right?

Yessir, everyone on this sight is white, Christian, rich and we all hate the poor ‘darkies’.

Im not sure which is more deliterious to our future, libs destroying our culture or euros falling to their knees in fright. Cowards both, that is for certain.

“That would be a four hour blockbuster”

But don’t forget the other 2 propagandists…Cavuto/Gibson….Your now looking at 6 straight hours of propaganda….You can’t say that’s a good thing…But I suppose you will.

“I rarely watch Bill, I dislike megalomania! But, ratings mean money and money rules the media.”

It’s a sad state of affairs when ratings are king and giving straight news coverage is an after thought.

Yessir, everyone on this sight is white, Christian, rich and we all hate the poor ‘darkies’.

Putting aside your pooor grammar, that’s one of the more intelligent and accurate comments I’ve heard a;; day.

“FUX News whore”, “What a bitch Laura is!”, “is this a Michelle Malkin fan site or a Laura whatserface fan site? I vote Michelle – less ugly and her voice doesn’t sound like fozzie bear on an angry pill.”

Ladies and gentlemen, the American left. These are the people who have the ability to cancel out your votes This right here is the reason why you can’t stay home in protest over immigration this fall, because these hate filled psychos will be there. Despite Howard Dean saying that only Republicans have time to wait in voting lines because “a lot of them have never made an honest living in their lives”, the truth of the matter is it’s these whacked out college kids still living off mommy and daddy’s checkbook, as well as trustfund babies, and other rich yuppies who has an easier time making it to the voting booth. I’m not going to get in to the whole obvious fact that it’s in fact liberals who get more of their donations from rich people etc., other than to say that here in Vermont we’re one of the most liberal states in the country. It’s also very tough to get by up here unless you’re pulling 6 digits (which I’m not even close to doing, before we go that route)

Anyway, just look at what the American liberal is.. it’s on display in these threads every day.

That being said, I’m gladd MsUnderestimated posted this because I wrote Ian an email last night hoping he would have it. This is the PERFECT example of what we mean when we say the Dems have no plan. This broad is supposed to be the DNC communications director!? What is one thing she communicated during that entire segment? That she doesn’t know how to answer a question? Or just that she’s so blinded by her own liberal dishonesty (a prerequisite) that she’s not even aware when she’s not answering a question (psst… bring your A game when you come on Fox or don’t show up. This ain’t CNN/your soapbox)

Back to the point, I just can’t even begin to express how shameful these Democrats are. Just watch the video. I don’t care what side of the aisle you are on, you have to admit that this “director of communications” did, arguably the worst job “making the case” for the Dems, ever. Just proving what we always say, sense she would be the one, if anyone, could verbalize their ideas/plans. Just watch it, and if you can’t grasp why we have no respect for modern Democrats and … Whatever, I don’t know why I’m bothering, the segment speaks for itself. If you don’t get it, then you’re lying.

Tic Tac Toejam on July 29, 2006 at 1:38 pm said:

Poor muslim-wannabe euro doesnt seem to have much to say. The art of debate has gone to hell in EUrabia, I see.

You are Christian, arent you umnu? I mean all Americans are Christian just like all europeans are soon to muslims, right?

Yessir, everyone on this sight is white, Christian, rich and we all hate the poor ‘darkies’.

Im not sure which is more deliterious to our future, libs destroying our culture or euros falling to their knees in fright. Cowards both, that is for certain.

1. Yes, although not the best example of one, I am a Christian.
2. No, all Americans are not Christian, we are a society representing almost every religion on earth.
3. My family is multi-racial and my grandson, my best buddy is an African-American, one granddaughter is Asian, we have Hispanics, and my sister and late brother are half-blood Cherokee Indians. So, to answer your question directly, yes, like all Americans I am a racist, right?
4. Europeans have surrendered much of the Christian faith, Muslims are becoming quite dominant there, and Europeans are increasingly afraid to stand up against extremist Muslims for fear of offending their Mulsim populations and inciting violence in their streets.
5. Liberals are destroying our Judeo-Christian culture in favor of the European model of a purely secular state, and one intent upon appeasement at all costs.

“although it is sad that most of them are lower on the social order than terrorists, rapists and child molestors!”

What the hell type of church do you go too…I’m beginning to think its some sort of devil worship with thoughts like that.

Putting aside your pooor grammar, that’s one of the more intelligent and accurate comments I’ve heard a;; day.

HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE

Thanks man, I needed that!

Umnu, your 4 and 5 are right on the button.

Europe slumbers away its heritage, content to watch its native population being supplanted for fear of destroying the multicultural superiority which was supposed to save them. They dont seem to have the ability to effectively counter the muslim tide washing up on their shores. Theyre done for, they just dont know it yet.

The liberals seem intent on perpetrating the same crime here, forcing PC down our throats while simaltaneously destroying all the institutions and concepts which bind our people together.

We can do something about the latter, the former is a lost cause. The only thing left to do in europe is transfer the property, and the only question mark is how bloody that transfer will be.

HappySmokerUK on July 29, 2006 at 1:52 pm said:

“although it is sad that most of them are lower on the social order than terrorists, rapists and child molestors!”

What the hell type of church do you go too…I’m beginning to think its some sort of devil worship with thoughts like that.

Well old Chap, in the Colonies we call my comments; ““although it is sad that most of them are lower on the social order than terrorists, rapists and child molestors!” Sarcastic humor!

As to your judgment of Christianity, am I supposed to care what an admitted stonehead, drug addict, pansy Brit has to say?

I think maybe they are running Laura so that when KO keeps taking shots at Bill he has to use old material. They are forcing the idiot to think of new material to cover. Make no mistake. This is deadly serious business for him.

And i was wondering. Do these democrats even bother of thinking of how to answer any of these questions they are asked? Maybe they have no intentions of answering them at all.

“Smoker Said:

“Your making this difficult Sherlock…Plan C….Go back to bed…Sleep for say an hour…Then try and get out of bed on the left side.

Ingraham seems to be taking over from Bill a lot lately…Maybe Roger has found Bill to be one of those “slackers” he was talking about…I’m thinking the great bag of hot air could be out on his ear in the near future….If this happens I’ll be claiming total victory.”

I know facts don’t concern you when it comes to FNC (or anything else for that matter), but O’Reilly’s ratings have INCREASED roughly 20% – 25% since the Israeli military conflict began and hit almost 2.7 million viewers this past week (as opposed to his consistent 2.2 million viewers he was getting before it began).

____________________________________

CABLE NEWS RACE
MONDAY, JULY 24
VIEWERS

FOXNEWS O’REILLY 2,693,000
FNC HANNITY/COLMES 1,801,000
FNC BRIT HUME 1,648,000
FNC SHEP SMITH 1,559,000
FNC GRETA 1,491,000
CNN COOPER 1,128,000
CNN KING 1,097,000
CNN ZAHN 890,000
CNN DOBBS 784,000
CNNHN GRACE 460,000
MSNBC HARDBALL 369,000
MSNBC OLBERMANN 365,000

____________________________________

One month ago:

CABLE NEWS RACE WED., JUNE 21, 2006
VIEWERS

FNC O’REILLY 2,149,000
FNC HANNITY/COLMES 1,735,000
FNC GRETA 1,353,000
FNC HUME 1,240,000
FNC SHEP 1,185,000
CNN KING 1,007,000
CNN COOPER 912,000
CNN DOBBS 793,000
CNN ZAHN 625,000
CNNHN GRACE 497,000
MSNBC OLBERMANN 251,000
MSNBC HARDBALL 246,000

____________________________________

What does this all mean?

It means that BOR is destroying his competition by a significantly WIDER margin than he did just one month ago before the war between Israel and Hezbollah began.

So much for being a “slacker.”

Perhaps that is a clear indication that people must trust BOR to report the news and facts surrounding major stories and conflicts as opposed to our friends at CNN and MSNBC.

It also means that O’Reilly’s mere INCREASE in viewers over the past month is actually larger than Keith Olbermann has TOTAL viewers.

Given these indisputable facts, I wouldn’t be lighting up your victory cigar anytime soon if I were in your shoes.

pooor

a;;

That was a hoot. Careful how you pick a fight there, kettle.

Maybe they don’t have answers. I was torn in the last election and wasn’t sure if I should cast my vote for W or not. I encountered some Kerry fans outside the Navy Exchange at Pearl Harbor and asked them what his plans were for securing the country, securing Iraq, securing our border; you know general questions probably most of us had. They said something along the lines of the fact that he’s formulating a plan and we will learn that plan on January 20, 05, when he assumes office after having a chance to really get all the intelligence he does not have access to now. I said that wasn’t an answer but it seems to be the standard answer. I don’t know how many of you remember the change for change sake in the election of 1976? My parents were children during the Great Depression (my paternal Grandfather worked, my maternal Grandfather did not)and both said that there wasn’t the malaise there was during the Carter years.

“pansy Brit has to say”
Can’t remember ever admitting to that…But who knows maybe I did…When I’m this stoned I can’t remember what I wrote 5mins ago let alone something I may have said days ago.

“Sarcastic humor”

The Coulter excuse being employed here I see.

Umnumzana #30 & 39

Damn, you are the Bloggfather! Keep up the good work. Put these libs in their place.

Bob on July 29, 2006 at 10:27 am said:

I though she held her own for being interviewed by a (dumb) FUX News whore. She was asked stupid unrelated questions and gave it back pretty well.

http://homepage.mac.com/duffyb/nobush/iMovieTheater324.html

Laura Ingraham- A Dumb *** News *****?
Isnt that precious! That is the left for you. If you try to move beyond “smart and tough”, “Redeployment”
“Progress”, “Change”, and “Bold New Direction”, you end up with a hand full of NOTHING! If you push the point, you Fox News *** **** DUMB**** *** Fiddily Blah, GOO GOO ******* BUSH ****S Bliggity Bliggity **** d***h*** BLOOBITY BLOOBITY!
I have NO use for Democrat Party!
From Dean to Pelosi, they should all walk in the wilderness for 60 years while actual Grownups run things.
Now, I will continue to pull my party back to its limited Gov. roots!

anaconda on July 29, 2006 at 2:13 pm said:

“Smoker Said:

“Your making this difficult Sherlock…Plan C….Go back to bed…Sleep for say an hour…Then try and get out of bed on the left side.

Ingraham seems to be taking over from Bill a lot lately…Maybe Roger has found Bill to be one of those “slackers” he was talking about…I’m thinking the great bag of hot air could be out on his ear in the near future….If this happens I’ll be claiming total victory.”

I know facts don’t concern you when it comes to FNC (or anything else for that matter), but O’Reilly’s ratings have INCREASED roughly 20% – 25% since the Israeli military conflict began and hit almost 2.7 million viewers this past week (as opposed to his consistent 2.2 million viewers he was getting before it began).

____________________________________

CABLE NEWS RACE
MONDAY, JULY 24
VIEWERS

FOXNEWS O’REILLY 2,693,000
FNC HANNITY/COLMES 1,801,000
FNC BRIT HUME 1,648,000
FNC SHEP SMITH 1,559,000
FNC GRETA 1,491,000
CNN COOPER 1,128,000
CNN KING 1,097,000
CNN ZAHN 890,000
CNN DOBBS 784,000
CNNHN GRACE 460,000
MSNBC HARDBALL 369,000
MSNBC OLBERMANN 365,000

____________________________________

One month ago:

CABLE NEWS RACE WED., JUNE 21, 2006
VIEWERS

FNC O’REILLY 2,149,000
FNC HANNITY/COLMES 1,735,000
FNC GRETA 1,353,000
FNC HUME 1,240,000
FNC SHEP 1,185,000
CNN KING 1,007,000
CNN COOPER 912,000
CNN DOBBS 793,000
CNN ZAHN 625,000
CNNHN GRACE 497,000
MSNBC OLBERMANN 251,000
MSNBC HARDBALL 246,000

____________________________________

What does this all mean?

It means that BOR is destroying his competition by a significantly WIDER margin than he did just one month ago before the war between Israel and Hezbollah began.

So much for being a “slacker.”

Perhaps that is a clear indication that people must trust BOR to report the news and facts surrounding major stories and conflicts as opposed to our friends at CNN and MSNBC.

It also means that O’Reilly’s mere INCREASE in viewers over the past month is actually larger than Keith Olbermann has TOTAL viewers.

Given these indisputable facts, I wouldn’t be lighting up your victory cigar anytime soon if I were in your shoes.

How long until some idiot tries to play with the number saying KO had a ~45% increace while BO had only a ~25% increase (failing to relieze that 145% of crap is still crap).

It’s interesting that one would take to attacking others with regard to looks, semantics, voice tone, clothes, etc. instead of just sticking to the topic at hand.

This behavior immediately goes to the lack of ability to not only debate, but to even stay on topic, which is the Democrats and their “plan of action”.

If the Dems want to get out of Iraq, what exactly is their plan of action then, besides move the troops to Okinawa, what will be the plan of action, step by step, to move onward and upward with the war on terror, as the war is not over from all reports.

Let’s hear concrete and specific ideas and not some talking points that do “the little sidestep” away from the issue at hand.

Tic Tac Toejam on July 29, 2006 at 2:03 pm said:

Umnu, your 4 and 5 are right on the button.

Europe slumbers away its heritage, content to watch its native population being supplanted for fear of destroying the multicultural superiority which was supposed to save them. They dont seem to have the ability to effectively counter the muslim tide washing up on their shores. Theyre done for, they just dont know it yet.

The liberals seem intent on perpetrating the same crime here, forcing PC down our throats while simaltaneously destroying all the institutions and concepts which bind our people together.

We can do something about the latter, the former is a lost cause. The only thing left to do in europe is transfer the property, and the only question mark is how bloody that transfer will be.

... While republican America still has time for a Final Solution, right?

Bill McGubbin, we’re still waiting for your answer to this post:

Scooternyc on July 29, 2006 at 4:38 pm said:

It’s interesting that one would take to attacking others with regard to looks, semantics, voice tone, clothes, etc. instead of just sticking to the topic at hand.

This behavior immediately goes to the lack of ability to not only debate, but to even stay on topic, which is the Democrats and their “plan of action”.

If the Dems want to get out of Iraq, what exactly is their plan of action then, besides move the troops to Okinawa, what will be the plan of action, step by step, to move onward and upward with the war on terror, as the war is not over from all reports.

Let’s hear concrete and specific ideas and not some talking points that do “the little sidestep” away from the issue at hand.

Tc Tac toejam and others: I thought you might find this interesting.

“History Lesson:

About the time our original 13 states adopted their new constitution,in 1787, Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the University of Edinburgh, had this to say about the fall of the Athenian Republic some 2,000 years prior:

“A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist
as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship.”

“The average age of the world’s greatest civilizations from the
beginning of history, has been about 200 years.

During those 200 years, these nations always progressed through the following sequence:

1. From bondage to spiritual faith;
2. From spiritual faith to great courage;
3. From courage to liberty;
4. From liberty to abundance;
5. From abundance to complacency;
6. From complacency to apathy;
7. From apathy to dependence;
8. From dependence back into bondage ”

Professor Joseph Olson of Hamline University School of Law, St.
Paul, Minnesota, points out some interesting facts concerning the
2000 Presidential election:

“Population of counties won by: Gore: 127 million, Bush: 143 million;

Square miles of land won by: Gore: 580,000, Bush: 2,427,000;

States won by: Gore: 19; Bush: 29;

Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by Gore: 13.2;
Bush: 2.1;

Professor Olson adds: “In aggregate, the map of the territory Bush won was mostly the land owned by the tax-paying citizens of this great country. Gore’s territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in government-owned tenements and living off government welfare…”

Olson believes the United States is now somewhere between the
“complacency and apathy” phase of Professor Tyler’s definition of
democracy, with some 40 percent of the nation’s population already
having reached the “governmental dependency” phase.

Pass this along to help everyone realize just how much is at stake, knowing that apathy is the greatest danger to our freedom.

PS . If the Senate grants Amnesty and citizenship to 20 million
criminal invaders called illegals and they vote, then goodbye USA in less than 5 years

Hmmm…another way to read post #65 is, wealthy landowners (the “already-haves”, old money, etc.) supported Bush . Those who are trapped in the cycle of poverty supported Gore.

It would be interesting to see what percentage of the people voted at all in the Gore-supporting areas. Probably not a very big number. Maybe those who did represent the best of the downtrodden, those who are seeking a way up the ladder.

Then again, maybe not. But it’s easy to take a few facts & paint a pretty picture of whatever you want. It’s slightly harder to exercise your discernment and recognize the flim-flam.

Veeeeeeeeeery interesting

wouldn’tchaliketoknow? Said:
9:09 pm [ Quote ]

Hmmm…another way to read post #65 is, wealthy landowners (the “already-haves”, old money, etc.) supported Bush . Those who are trapped in the cycle of poverty supported Gore.

Why are they trapped in the cycle of poverty? Haven’t many very poor people worked hard and broken the cycle of poverty in their lives and lifted others out of poverty with them? If so, then no on eis trapped, except by their lack of initiative, desire and hard work. Further, I would submit that it was the welfare society itself that trapped so many people in poverty, for whenever you remove the incentive to reach out of life’s circumstance, by enslaving people to the welfare state, it is the government itself that has created the cycle of poverty. Which party is responsible for the welfare state? Can you spell D E M O C R A T S?

Umnumzana on July 29, 2006 at 9:37 pm said:

wouldn’tchaliketoknow? Said:
9:09 pm [ Quote ]

Hmmm…another way to read post #65 is, wealthy landowners (the “already-haves”, old money, etc.) supported Bush . Those who are trapped in the cycle of poverty supported Gore.

Why are they trapped in the cycle of poverty? Haven’t many very poor people worked hard and broken the cycle of poverty in their lives and lifted others out of poverty with them? If so, then no on eis trapped, except by their lack of initiative, desire and hard work. Further, I would submit that it was the welfare society itself that trapped so many people in poverty, for whenever you remove the incentive to reach out of life’s circumstance, by enslaving people to the welfare state, it is the government itself that has created the cycle of poverty. Which party is responsible for the welfare state? Can you spell D E M O C R A T S?

Good thinking batman. Let’s go back to the founding fathers’ intentions – only male landowners can vote. We can’t have riff-raff deciding elections, can we?

Oh, and while we’re at it, no nigrahs either. That will be a good, god fearing society.

Good thinking batman. Let’s go back to the founding fathers’ intentions – only male landowners can vote. We can’t have riff-raff deciding elections, can we?

Oh, and while we’re at it, no nigrahs either. That will be a good, god fearing society.

So what you’re saying Bill, is that you can’t argue any of Umnu’s points, so you go to the played out “republicans are racists and sexists” line to avoid having to make any real points? Par for the course for a liberal I guess.

Umnumzana, great post and I noticed that Bill never answers any posts that pose questions to him about solutions or understanding. His main purpose is to behave much like the drive-by MSM, he just lobbs ridiculous attempts at humor with certainly no attempt at logic or reasoning.

Let’s see, count to 20 and he’ll have his next inane, banal response for which he submits as evidence to his “cleverness” but just proves his incompetence.

I think that only those who own property should be allowed to vote on raising property taxes.

Hello on July 29, 2006 at 2:15 pm said:

Maybe they don’t have answers. I was torn in the last election and wasn’t sure if I should cast my vote for W or not. I encountered some Kerry fans outside the Navy Exchange at Pearl Harbor and asked them what his plans were for securing the country, securing Iraq, securing our border; you know general questions probably most of us had. They said something along the lines of the fact that he’s formulating a plan and we will learn that plan on January 20, 05, when he assumes office after having a chance to really get all the intelligence he does not have access to now. I said that wasn’t an answer but it seems to be the standard answer. I don’t know how many of you remember the change for change sake in the election of 1976? My parents were children during the Great Depression (my paternal Grandfather worked, my maternal Grandfather did not)and both said that there wasn’t the malaise there was during the Carter years.

Kerry coudn’t tell us his plan before the election, but he knew for sure GWB had a secret plan to reinstitute the draft in January of 05 if he was re-elected.
What ever happened to the JFK democrat party? This current crop of dems is nothing short of sad.

Randy on July 29, 2006 at 11:32 pm said:

Good thinking batman. Let’s go back to the founding fathers’ intentions – only male landowners can vote. We can’t have riff-raff deciding elections, can we?

Oh, and while we’re at it, no nigrahs either. That will be a good, god fearing society.

So what you’re saying Bill, is that you can’t argue any of Umnu’s points, so you go to the played out “republicans are racists and sexists” line to avoid having to make any real points? Par for the course for a liberal I guess.

IF you’d warm up your brain, you might get a grip of the idea of sarcasm. Umnnum is, as usual, arguing for some kind of incremental return to New England puritanism. His argument, in essence, was that you have to be a stupid criminal to vote democrat. Which is, well… neanderthal.

Got it?

Umnumzana on July 29, 2006 at 7:32 pm said:

Tc Tac toejam and others: I thought you might find this interesting.

“History Lesson:

About the time our original 13 states adopted their new constitution,in 1787, Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the University of Edinburgh, had this to say about the fall of the Athenian Republic some 2,000 years prior:

“A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist
as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship.”

“The average age of the world’s greatest civilizations from the
beginning of history, has been about 200 years.

During those 200 years, these nations always progressed through the following sequence:

1. From bondage to spiritual faith;
2. From spiritual faith to great courage;
3. From courage to liberty;
4. From liberty to abundance;
5. From abundance to complacency;
6. From complacency to apathy;
7. From apathy to dependence;
8. From dependence back into bondage ”

Professor Joseph Olson of Hamline University School of Law, St.
Paul, Minnesota, points out some interesting facts concerning the
2000 Presidential election:

“Population of counties won by: Gore: 127 million, Bush: 143 million;

Square miles of land won by: Gore: 580,000, Bush: 2,427,000;

States won by: Gore: 19; Bush: 29;

Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by Gore: 13.2;
Bush: 2.1;

Professor Olson adds: “In aggregate, the map of the territory Bush won was mostly the land owned by the tax-paying citizens of this great country. Gore’s territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in government-owned tenements and living off government welfare…”

Olson believes the United States is now somewhere between the
“complacency and apathy” phase of Professor Tyler’s definition of
democracy, with some 40 percent of the nation’s population already
having reached the “governmental dependency” phase.

Pass this along to help everyone realize just how much is at stake, knowing that apathy is the greatest danger to our freedom.

PS . If the Senate grants Amnesty and citizenship to 20 million
criminal invaders called illegals and they vote, then goodbye USA in less than 5 years

Another fine post for Umnumzana.

Here is a visual illustration of how Bush actually dominated the US in both the 2000 and 2004 Presidential Elections when you break it down county-by-county.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/vote2004/countymap2000.htm

The fact of the matter is, both Gore and Kerry received most of their support from the cities, but suburban America and “flyover country” largely supported President Bush.

That is a bitter pill the Democrats have to swallow, but with the DNC leadership of people like Howard Dean who is embracing the FAR Left faction of the Party, they are continuously digging themselves into a deeper hole that they are going to have a really hard time climbing out by the time the 2008 Presidential Election is upon us.

A little prediction:

The Dems will be very disappointed this November after they fail in their attempt to take back Congress in the midterm elections.

Howard Dean will have proven even further to be a dismal failure in getting the Dems’ “message” out there and the Party will toss Dean overboard and elect a new DNC Chairman in January of 2007.

Um and Anaconda, what great posts – it almost surprises me that USA Today would post a graphic like that since it supports President Bush so much, but…I like it!

Great Stuff!

I agree with your prediction. The greatest problem the Democrats have is that they have no plan of action, they cannot communicate with the American people in a way that convinces them that they are the better party to be in control, and they continue to manipulate the media and use sound bites as a means of politics rather than action, which everyone sees through quite quickly.

Truly, if the Democrats came out with a plan, concrete and specific, that outlined what they would do to “turn around this country” (given their premised that it’s in dismal failure) they might get some folks on their side, but they can’t do it. They’re just not evolved enough as of yet.

I think they want another “celebrity type” in the White House like Bill Clinton. Wow, he could play the saxaphone; he knows Barbra “I’m an eternal victim” Streisand, and “he behaves like me, flaws and all, having sex outside his marriage, disgracing the Presidency, he’s just like me”.

anaconda on July 30, 2006 at 9:54 am said:

Umnumzana on July 29, 2006 at 7:32 pm said:

Tc Tac toejam and others: I thought you might find this interesting.

“History Lesson:

About the time our original 13 states adopted their new constitution,in 1787, Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the University of Edinburgh, had this to say about the fall of the Athenian Republic some 2,000 years prior:

“A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist
as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship.”

“The average age of the world’s greatest civilizations from the
beginning of history, has been about 200 years.

During those 200 years, these nations always progressed through the following sequence:

1. From bondage to spiritual faith;
2. From spiritual faith to great courage;
3. From courage to liberty;
4. From liberty to abundance;
5. From abundance to complacency;
6. From complacency to apathy;
7. From apathy to dependence;
8. From dependence back into bondage ”

Professor Joseph Olson of Hamline University School of Law, St.
Paul, Minnesota, points out some interesting facts concerning the
2000 Presidential election:

“Population of counties won by: Gore: 127 million, Bush: 143 million;

Square miles of land won by: Gore: 580,000, Bush: 2,427,000;

States won by: Gore: 19; Bush: 29;

Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by Gore: 13.2;
Bush: 2.1;

Professor Olson adds: “In aggregate, the map of the territory Bush won was mostly the land owned by the tax-paying citizens of this great country. Gore’s territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in government-owned tenements and living off government welfare…”

Olson believes the United States is now somewhere between the
“complacency and apathy” phase of Professor Tyler’s definition of
democracy, with some 40 percent of the nation’s population already
having reached the “governmental dependency” phase.

Pass this along to help everyone realize just how much is at stake, knowing that apathy is the greatest danger to our freedom.

PS . If the Senate grants Amnesty and citizenship to 20 million
criminal invaders called illegals and they vote, then goodbye USA in less than 5 years

Another fine post for Umnumzana.

Here is a visual illustration of how Bush actually dominated the US in both the 2000 and 2004 Presidential Elections when you break it down county-by-county.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/vote2004/countymap2000.htm

The fact of the matter is, both Gore and Kerry received most of their support from the cities, but suburban America and “flyover country” largely supported President Bush.

That is a bitter pill the Democrats have to swallow, but with the DNC leadership of people like Howard Dean who is embracing the FAR Left faction of the Party, they are continuously digging themselves into a deeper hole that they are going to have a really hard time climbing out by the time the 2008 Presidential Election is upon us.

A little prediction:

The Dems will be very disappointed this November after they fail in their attempt to take back Congress in the midterm elections.

Howard Dean will have proven even further to be a dismal failure in getting the Dems’ “message” out there and the Party will toss Dean overboard and elect a new DNC Chairman in January of 2007.

When you guys have finished your logorrheic circle-jerk, can you wake the rest of us up?

Scooternyc on July 30, 2006 at 11:31 am said:

Um and Anaconda, what great posts – it almost surprises me that USA Today would post a graphic like that since it supports President Bush so much, but…I like it!

Great Stuff!

I agree with your prediction. The greatest problem the Democrats have is that they have no plan of action, they cannot communicate with the American people in a way that convinces them that they are the better party to be in control, and they continue to manipulate the media and use sound bites as a means of politics rather than action, which everyone sees through quite quickly.

Truly, if the Democrats came out with a plan, concrete and specific, that outlined what they would do to “turn around this country” (given their premised that it’s in dismal failure) they might get some folks on their side, but they can’t do it. They’re just not evolved enough as of yet.

I think they want another “celebrity type” in the White House like Bill Clinton. Wow, he could play the saxaphone; he knows Barbra “I’m an eternal victim” Streisand, and “he behaves like me, flaws and all, having sex outside his marriage, disgracing the Presidency, he’s just like me”.

I think most of of us know the Dems DO have a plan. They just can’t come clean with it, because they know it wouldn’t help them. It won’t sell to mainstream America. They are smart enough to know that. It’s partly why after picking lefty’s for their prez nominee they quickly move them to the center. To try and fool the masses. Can anyone tell me what part of John Kerry’s 20 year senate record he ran on? What were his big accomplishments there? Which ones did he tout on the campaign trail?

I think most of of us know the Dems DO have a plan. They just can’t come clean with it, because they know it wouldn’t help them. It won’t sell to mainstream America. They are smart enough to know that. It’s partly why after picking lefty’s for their prez nominee they quickly move them to the center. To try and fool the masses. Can anyone tell me what part of John Kerry’s 20 year senate record he ran on? What were his big accomplishments there? Which ones did he tout on the campaign trail?

Ouch! Nice post! Touche pussycat!

Bill McGubbin Said:
11:40 am [ Quote ]

anaconda on July 30, 2006 at 9:54 am said:

Umnumzana on July 29, 2006 at 7:32 pm said:
Tc Tac toejam and others: I thought you might find this interesting.

“History Lesson:

About the time our original 13 states adopted their new constitution,in 1787, Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the University of Edinburgh, had this to say about the fall of the Athenian Republic some 2,000 years prior:

“A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist
as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship.”

“The average age of the world’s greatest civilizations from the
beginning of history, has been about 200 years.

During those 200 years, these nations always progressed through the following sequence:

1. From bondage to spiritual faith;
2. From spiritual faith to g