Cross-posted from MsUnderestimated.
Medea Benjamin, co-founder of Code Pink, was brave enough to come on with Laura tonight to talk about the recent heckling incidents on Capitol Hill. Laura didn’t hold anything back – and I love her for that! She did it all, however, with finesse. Medea, as usual, was waiting for the Mother Wheel to beam her back up.
As usual, the Code Pinkos don’t have any real plan, and for the life of me, I’ll never understand how they continue to sell their garbage to the gullible left. At one point, Laura tells her her ideas are a “John Lennon song – not a plan.” If you listen to one of them, all you have to do is record it and you can play it back over any video on TV of any activist, and it won’t make a difference. The voice may not match, but the words are all the same. Blah blah, and more blah. Laura starts out by remarking that Medea was charged with Disruption of Congress, and asks her about that.
Here’s a partial transcript:
Laura: You don’t have any leg irons on you or handcuffs or anything? They sprung you, eh?Medea: That’s right, and I must say you look very pretty in pink, Laura.
Laura: Well, I would like to say that I was wearing it for you, but it was the only thing in my closet.
Okay, here’s my question to you: How does heckling help the cause of human rights. I would assume you would agree that you’re a human rights activist, right?
Medea: I don’t like the word “heckling,” I would say we were speaking…
Laura: Well that’s what you were doing.
Medea: …well, that’s the word you use, but we were saying, we were speaking up for the people who weren’t being heard. We tried through many means to meet with the Prime Minister. We called his office before he came.
Laura: Are you kidding me?
Medea: Oh, no, I’m serious!
Laura: You actually thought that you were going to meet with the Prime Minister of Iraq?
Medea: We came very close; we spoke to the Ambassador three times, and he said he got us a meeting and then they never showed up for it. So we didn’t have a chance. He spoke to George Bush, he spoke to Congress, but…
Laura: Why should he meet with Code Pink?
Medea: Just because we represent now the majority voice of the United States.
Laura: Oh, so Code Pink speaks for the majority of Americans?
Medea: Have you seen the latest poll of the New York Times?
Laura: Do you think that the majority of Americans see what you guys did this week on Capitol Hill, and are going “Yeah, BE RUDE to the Iraqi Prime Minister! Yeah, be really rude and act like you’re about 12 years old when the U.N. Ambassador, who is trying to represent our country’s interests, is up on Capitol Hill testifying!” You think people really think you guys are cool for doing that?
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5:03 am [ Quote ]
One thing to her credit, at least she had the guts to come on the program, which is more than I can say about most lefties. (which now that I read your comments you already said hehe)
If MSN really wanted to pull better ratings, they would put Laura in Obie’s spot. Not sure if she would do it or not, but she would pull some of the numbers off of Bill.
5:04 am [ Quote ]
Edit, MSNBC that is
5:49 am [ Quote ]
Agreed, MirCat.. but I don’t think Laura would want to leave a winning team to join a loser team. LOL… do you?
Ms. U
5:55 am [ Quote ]
That is one of two reasons that I said I wasn’t sure if she would do that or not
But she has subbed for joe scarborough before.
Fox needs a 2nd News Channel
9:50 am [ Quote ]
This is what happens to females when the threat of a backhand has been TOTALLY removed from society!
There is no sense of consequence. Women in America live under the knowledge that if they experience ANY adversity, or hurt feelings, there will be a cavalry of men to come to their aid. A slap to the face of a woman is the greatest sin there could be! Just ask any lawyer!
I’m not advocating beating-up girls. But I am pointing out how character suffers when there is no consequence to bad behavior.
I’ll also point out that most liberal men also fall under this screed. All interpersonal conflict should be “handled’ by a lawyer. The days where a man could smack an offender in the puss are over! Today’s “enlightened” “man” knows that violence only perpetuates more violence! (Barf!)
This explains why so many Americans voted for Kerry in ‘04; Character is now thought of as a relic from the past that is today obsolete!
10:08 am [ Quote ]
Where’s the MSM-Drive by -media outrage over this Code Pink woman embarrassing the President and the United States with her behavior?
The MSM-Drive-By-Media were all up in arms a few months ago when a woman started protesting the leader of China, where’s their outrage on this? Where’s the “she embarrassed the President” story?
I believe in dissent, but I also believe in decorum and decency and I tire of people like Cindy, Code Pink, Howard Mean, et.al. and their continued disrespect for this country.
Growing up for me, not all that long ago, my parents would never have allowed me to talk about our President with disrespect, irregardless of a political view. “Disagree with others is fine, disrespect is not, it gets you nowhere and it’s wrong no matter who you are.” My mom passed away a few years ago, apparently so has social grace, social etiquette and decency.
10:17 am [ Quote ]
This is the third time I have watched Medea Benjamin on the O’Reilly Factor and I am convinced that not only is she completely clueless and has nothing substantive and constructive to offer, but it seems to me that she comes on because she is arrogant enough to delude herself into believing she’s intelligent enough to stand up to O’Reilly and Ingram but actually comes off more as a clueless, emotional rabblerouser who truly has little to no knowledge of the facts. Medea, along with other Code Pink members, have been proven to be dishonest and are willing to say (but not do) anything to try to further their cause. Benjamin has no plan nor any firm factually based positions to present so to garner attention and support, they provide publicity stunts and weak p.r. in hopes of bringing in more membership. However, the quality of those people they are attracting are equally as poor as they are.
10:29 am [ Quote ]
However, the quality of those people they are attracting are equally as poor as they are.
The Great Unwashed and Unhinged!
10:40 am [ Quote ]
It’s high time people protest in this manner!
10:47 am [ Quote ]
9Bob, I’m guessing that because of your post on this stream and others that you are Democrat, how far left you are I have no idea.
But, what does it do to advance someone’s cause by behaving in this manner? Publicity? I think everyone knows by now who Code Pink is and what they stand for and have taken sides one way or the other.
Do you think it’s appropriate for someone to misrepresent him/her self when entering our nation’s capitol and using it as a forum, for which it was not intended for public displays of dissent, to be disrespectful to another leader within our political global partners?
11:12 am [ Quote ]
“Medea: Just because we represent now the majority voice of the United States.”
HAHA! They may be “Code Pink”, but they must smoke a lot of green.
11:26 am [ Quote ]
KSgop,
I spend a lot of time on a board that lets both sides battle it out and this meme that “they are the majority voice” has become prevalent not only as an “argument”, but also using it in nicknames.
I think it’s one of these delusions that since they can’t win at the ballot box they will just cite some phony poll and declare themselves in charge. The scary thing is that they actually believe it.
11:32 am [ Quote ]
It’s high time people protest in this manner!
What you mean you hippies have been doing this kind of crap since the 1968 DNC in Chicago. It is stupid you don’t win public debates by being rude, it makes your side look like cry babies.
11:37 am [ Quote ]
RW is stating the heart of the matter by using the term, “delusions”.
For this poor demented woman to believe that she has the political clout to be able to talk directly to the Prime Minister of any country at all simply because she demands and audience can only be taken to be what it really is: Delusions of Grandeur.
And that is indicative of a whole host of psychological problems.
Take a good look at her in that video.
What we have here is a chinless mouthbreather with a history that would fill a book, this person is in desparate need of mental health professionals.
And her condition is likely not directly her fault.
Iniquity marches on.
.
11:42 am [ Quote ]
Great job by Laura.
Medea didn’t answer the Afghanistan question at the end, and Laura called her on it.
11:57 am [ Quote ]
Be really rude and act like you’re twelve years old?
Isn’t that the Fox News basic interview technique? If you don’t like the answer you get, just keep shouting over the interviewee, declare victory and go to the commercial break? Laura should fit in very well.
12:32 pm [ Quote ]
Sorry bill, but Laura would shred anyone who comes against her and would do so rationally. This idiot didnt stand a chance.
Now, on a lighter note, compare the two faces of the left and right. The right gets Laura and the left gets John Kerry in drag. Whoa, that Medea is..uh..different looking.
No wonder the men on the left are all pansies, if Medea was a prime example of leftist womanhood, you would go the way of the gay too.
1:10 pm [ Quote ]
Is it any wonder that Ms. Medea is travelling the nation as a code pinko? Its not like she would be hanging out in singles bars or something.
WOOF WOOF! Congrats lefties, you get yet another certified, batshit crazy, loonytune on your side. At this rate youre going to catch up to the arabs.
1:23 pm [ Quote ]
Medea needs your contributions.
All we can SSSssaaayyy …is Give Peace a Chance…
1:24 pm [ Quote ]
I lived through the flower-power, Hippie Sixties; and Cindy and Code Pink are poster children for that lost and totally useless generation of drugged out, free love, peace at any price culture.
It is one thing to have a sincere belief in peace and love; it is quite another thing altogether to live in the real world and be able to deal with real enemies. Not once have I witnessed the placing of flowers in the barrel of a rifle every stop the man holding the trigger from pulling it!
It is true that love is a powerful force that will turn even enemies into friends; unless those enemies are passionate, murderous ideologues willing to kill and be killed for their beliefs, and then wisdom must prevail and evil must be resisted, often with force.
1:41 pm [ Quote ]
Israel gave peace a chance and look what it got them. Medea should be looking for facelift contributions.
1:42 pm [ Quote ]
Sorry bill, but Laura would shred anyone who comes against her and would do so rationally. This idiot didnt stand a chance.
Now, on a lighter note, compare the two faces of the left and right. The right gets Laura and the left gets John Kerry in drag. Whoa, that Medea is..uh..different looking.
No wonder the men on the left are all pansies, if Medea was a prime example of leftist womanhood, you would go the way of the gay too.
Well, if you think WWE is real sport, then you’ll probably like Laura and think Fox is a real news channel.
I prefer to hear what the other person has to say, rather than the host shouting them down. Especially one with a voice like Laura. That voice could strip paint.
1:43 pm [ Quote ]
KSgop,
I spend a lot of time on a board that lets both sides battle it out and this meme that “they are the majority voice” has become prevalent not only as an “argument”, but also using it in nicknames.
I think it’s one of these delusions that since they can’t win at the ballot box they will just cite some phony poll and declare themselves in charge. The scary thing is that they actually believe it.
The only true poll, is the ballot box. Everyone gets to vote, and it’s not a sampling of 1000 people or whatever.
I think in the last Presidential Election we had over 100 million people vote.
100 Million People will show a much truer result than the opinions of 1000 people that sit home, and actually take calls from pollsters.
1:44 pm [ Quote ]
I saw this segment with this code pink women, and she claims she is an human rights activist.
Let me see, In Afghanistan, women can now vote,they can go to school to be educated and have the right of free speech. In Iraq, they can vote for their own political leaders,mass graves are not being filled anymore and Maliki is not gasing his towns. She opposes these changes on the grounds of human rights?
Clear thinking individuals know what this fraud is,nothing more than an appeasement,socialistic hate America liberal. This women hates George W. so much she would enslave 50 million people,keep mass graves being filled to make George W. look bad. She is nothing more than a useful idiot that these islamofacist will use to futher their own agenda, and endanger millions of Americans.
2:04 pm [ Quote ]
G-Monster,
I think these 121+ million are a much better picture.
This is a normal cycle though. In the Spring before an election the left always tells us how polls show they will win. During the Summer they actually have to name candidates and by Fall they lose. Then come the stolen election stories until the Spring before the next election…..
2:08 pm [ Quote ]
I have to agree that Laura cleaned her clock and is a much better host than anyone else Bill has on when he’s gone.
Scooternyc makes a point I was trying to make a few weeks ago. I have a feeling I’m about 15-20 years older than you are (I’m 42) & like you I was raised to respect the President even if I didn’t agree with whoever he was. I believe you’re right that decorum is something that seems to be lacking today. It is nice to know that there are still some being raised in this manenr. I am trying to raise my two in the same manner. I will also admit that sometimes I have been guilty of not being so nice myself.
Lobo, I agree that most people should know this is fraud and that these people are blinded by Bush Derangement Syndrome but I am afraid that for many who only watch the MSM & read the NYT, LAT or WPO believe this stuff.
2:10 pm [ Quote ]
Well, if you think WWE is real sport, then you’ll probably like Laura and think Fox is a real news channel.
But…the lefties are always complaining that FOX is the devils mouthpiece? Now youre claiming that FOX isnt a real news channel? Oh my, it seems the libs are spending a huge amount of effort in decrying a fake news channel, well, they are easily fooled so Im not surprised.
I prefer to hear what the other person has to say, rather than the host shouting them down. Especially one with a voice like Laura. That voice could strip paint.
Sure, sure you do. Its why libs like yourself are always demanding that FOX be muzzled, its your famous ‘fair practice’ doctrine of shouting down those you disagree with. Yeah, the liberals are regular paragons of fairness…zzzzzzzzzzzzz.
6:01 pm [ Quote ]
Well, if you think WWE is real sport, then you’ll probably like Laura and think Fox is a real news channel.
But…the lefties are always complaining that FOX is the devils mouthpiece? Now youre claiming that FOX isnt a real news channel? Oh my, it seems the libs are spending a huge amount of effort in decrying a fake news channel, well, they are easily fooled so Im not surprised.
I prefer to hear what the other person has to say, rather than the host shouting them down. Especially one with a voice like Laura. That voice could strip paint.
Sure, sure you do. Its why libs like yourself are always demanding that FOX be muzzled, its your famous ‘fair practice’ doctrine of shouting down those you disagree with. Yeah, the liberals are regular paragons of fairness…zzzzzzzzzzzzz.
One word for you – Propaganda. Go look it up, little boy.
6:05 pm [ Quote ]
She has more balls than most of the Dems.
7:50 pm [ Quote ]
I thought Laura was interviewing Tom Petty for a moment.
12:02 am [ Quote ]
Well, if you think WWE is real sport, then you’ll probably like Laura and think Fox is a real news channel.
But…the lefties are always complaining that FOX is the devils mouthpiece? Now youre claiming that FOX isnt a real news channel? Oh my, it seems the libs are spending a huge amount of effort in decrying a fake news channel, well, they are easily fooled so Im not surprised.
I prefer to hear what the other person has to say, rather than the host shouting them down. Especially one with a voice like Laura. That voice could strip paint.
Sure, sure you do. Its why libs like yourself are always demanding that FOX be muzzled, its your famous ‘fair practice’ doctrine of shouting down those you disagree with. Yeah, the liberals are regular paragons of fairness…zzzzzzzzzzzzz.
One word for you – Propaganda. Go look it up, little boy.
Bill, you have spent your entire day of posting on this blog contributing nothing of interest, most people get your stupidity and stop responding to you.
You’re not really funny, so why don’t you just piss off!
1:00 am [ Quote ]
You know, I kind of admire the underdog. To rise above adversity, beat the odds, and succeed. Unfortnately, the only thing I felt for Code pink’s spokesperson Medea Benjamin, was PITY. Medea thought she could get some recognition for her group but for the most part, the only recognition she received was how extreme her view is. For the record though, Laura has all my admiration as a suvivor and a very smart woman. I think a show at 10PM on Fox with her doing one day a week, perhaps, Mark Levin, Buckley, Boortz, each doing a day in that time slot would be a lock as far as ratings go.
1:02 am [ Quote ]
And a side note to MS UNDERESTIMATED: GREAT JOB! ! ! !
4:28 am [ Quote ]
i find it interesting that NO ONE addresses Medea’s main point; that Code Pink “represents now the majority voice of the United States.”
as evidence:
“An analysis released today by Frank Newport, director of The Gallup Poll, shows that current public wishes for U.S. policy in the Iraq war eerily echo attitudes about the Vietnam war in 1970.
The most recent Gallup poll this month found that 52% of adult Americans want to see all U.S. troops out of Iraq within a year, with 19% advocating immediate withdrawal. In the summer of 1970, Gallup found that 48% wanted a pullout within a year, with 23% embracing the “immediate” option. Just 7% want to send more troops now, vs. 10% then.
At present, 56% call the decision to invade Iraq a “mistake,” with 41% disagreeing. Again this echoes the view of the Vietnam war in 1970, when that exact same number, 56%, in May 1970 called it a mistake in a Gallup poll. —GG.
the pro-war voices on this site NEVER address the simple fact that their opinion is in the minority. they’re name-calling the MAJORITY of Americans, “appeasers,” “traitors,”“moonbats,” “pansies,” “liberals” etc., while characterizing their own far-right fringe perspective as mainstream.
and instead of seeing this, reflecting on it, they spend most of their time talking about how ugly Medea is.
real bright, deep stuff. it’s hard not to see the Right for what it has become; blindly loyal, authoritarian, dangerously extremist and emotionally immature.
6:27 am [ Quote ]
I think Medea answered it herself with her ‘hundreds and hundreds’ of e-mails
11:19 am [ Quote ]
i find it interesting that NO ONE addresses Medea’s main point; that Code Pink “represents now the majority voice of the United States.”
as evidence:
“An analysis released today by Frank Newport, director of The Gallup Poll, shows that current public wishes for U.S. policy in the Iraq war eerily echo attitudes about the Vietnam war in 1970.
The most recent Gallup poll this month found that 52% of adult Americans want to see all U.S. troops out of Iraq within a year, with 19% advocating immediate withdrawal. In the summer of 1970, Gallup found that 48% wanted a pullout within a year, with 23% embracing the “immediate” option. Just 7% want to send more troops now, vs. 10% then.
At present, 56% call the decision to invade Iraq a “mistake,” with 41% disagreeing. Again this echoes the view of the Vietnam war in 1970, when that exact same number, 56%, in May 1970 called it a mistake in a Gallup poll. —GG.
the pro-war voices on this site NEVER address the simple fact that their opinion is in the minority. they’re name-calling the MAJORITY of Americans, “appeasers,” “traitors,”“moonbats,” “pansies,” “liberals” etc., while characterizing their own far-right fringe perspective as mainstream.
and instead of seeing this, reflecting on it, they spend most of their time talking about how ugly Medea is.
real bright, deep stuff. it’s hard not to see the Right for what it has become; blindly loyal, authoritarian, dangerously extremist and emotionally immature.
Actually, you’re wrong. Polls can skew any information you like, elections are the real litmus test because it tells you exactly who the country wants as President and who they don’t.
I posted this just yesterday about a recent Harris Poll:
Scooternyc Said:
4:52 pm [ Quote ]
This just in….
In a recent Harris Poll 72% of respondents in America said they think that Iraq is in better shape then when Saddam was in power.
50% of Americans, up from 36% last year at this time, believed that Iraq has/had WMD’s.
64% said that Saddam had strong links with al-qaeda.
Interesting information, worth contemplating, especially since all polls can be skewed, but since Harris Polls are considered respectable based on other polls that would show oppositional positions, it lends more credibility.
Gem, you don’t sound like the one who’s too bright.
11:24 am [ Quote ]
Gem, if you look at your 1970’s date and some of those “questions” it’s a lot like the Democrats “cut and run” policy of today.
Once again, you can see how the Democrats are a very unevolved species, it’s been 30 years and they’ve learned nothing about war, freedom and what it means to be an American.
Just more, cut and run, cut and run, cut and run. Why don’t you encourage your Dem friends to get some testicular fortitude like we did in WWII and stop acting like a bunch of crybabies.
12:01 pm [ Quote ]
Medea: Have you seen the latest poll of the New York Times?
Crap, why doesn’t she just quote Pravda? Do these idiot want to be forced to wear Burkas?
3:05 pm [ Quote ]
Gem, if you look at your 1970’s date and some of those “questions” it’s a lot like the Democrats “cut and run” policy of today.
Once again, you can see how the Democrats are a very unevolved species, it’s been 30 years and they’ve learned nothing about war, freedom and what it means to be an American.
Just more, cut and run, cut and run, cut and run. Why don’t you encourage your Dem friends to get some testicular fortitude like we did in WWII and stop acting like a bunch of crybabies.
HOW TO RESPOND TO CRITICISM OF THE IRAQ WAR, by Scooternyc:
1. just IGNORE the polls. they don’t matter, they’re probably all lies anyway by the liberal media.
2. parrot Sean Hannity by using the “cut and run” catchphrase over-n-over again, hoping this meaningless soundbyte will firmly lodge itself into non-thinking drones.
3. assume the opponent is a Democrat, that way you can prop up your own strawman to take down with easy, predictable talking points. nevermind if he/she’s a libertarian, independent, disgruntled Republican, etc. Just assume they’re an evil Democrat.
4. compare the current situation to WWII, the Good War, where everyone agrees that was a noble, legitimate fight against the Nazis. that way you’re no longer arguing about the current conflict, and you can imply your opponent supports Nazis.
4. if all else fails, question their manhood; tell them they have no balls.
5. name-calling is smart too; “crybabies” is a good one.
6. but no matter what you do, NEVER actually consider that your own pro-war position is losing support. that could potentially change your mind and your life will crumble around you.
stay the course, stand tall and we’ll stand up when they stand down, etcetera ad nauseum.
5:09 pm [ Quote ]
Gem, if you look at your 1970’s date and some of those “questions” it’s a lot like the Democrats “cut and run” policy of today.
Once again, you can see how the Democrats are a very unevolved species, it’s been 30 years and they’ve learned nothing about war, freedom and what it means to be an American.
Just more, cut and run, cut and run, cut and run. Why don’t you encourage your Dem friends to get some testicular fortitude like we did in WWII and stop acting like a bunch of crybabies.
HOW TO RESPOND TO CRITICISM OF THE IRAQ WAR, by Scooternyc:
1. just IGNORE the polls. they don’t matter, they’re probably all lies anyway by the liberal media.
2. parrot Sean Hannity by using the “cut and run” catchphrase over-n-over again, hoping this meaningless soundbyte will firmly lodge itself into non-thinking drones.
3. assume the opponent is a Democrat, that way you can prop up your own strawman to take down with easy, predictable talking points. nevermind if he/she’s a libertarian, independent, disgruntled Republican, etc. Just assume they’re an evil Democrat.
4. compare the current situation to WWII, the Good War, where everyone agrees that was a noble, legitimate fight against the Nazis. that way you’re no longer arguing about the current conflict, and you can imply your opponent supports Nazis.
4. if all else fails, question their manhood; tell them they have no balls.
5. name-calling is smart too; “crybabies” is a good one.
6. but no matter what you do, NEVER actually consider that your own pro-war position is losing support. that could potentially change your mind and your life will crumble around you.
stay the course, stand tall and we’ll stand up when they stand down, etcetera ad nauseum.
Interesting counter-point.
Let’s just cut through all this and get to the really good stuff:
And so your plan of action to get out of Iraq is…?
So, your plan of action to “clean up the Bush Administration” is…?
So, your plan of action on the war on terror is…?
7:03 pm [ Quote ]
back it up, Scotternyc.
before you try to re-frame the debate, the initial point of contention was that Code Pink “represents now the majority voice of the United States,” and i found it interesting that NO ONE on this site of mostly pro-war voices, addresses that issue.
according to the Harris Poll, which you predictably assume is “skewered,” the majority of Americans disagree with your position. Bush’s low opinion polls also reflect this tide change.
before we get to the reasons WHY and the solutions, will you at least acknowledge that your opinion is in the minority? that you’re accusing the majority of Americans in the country of being “crybabies,” “unevolved” and “Democrats?”
7:25 pm [ Quote ]
“represents now the majority voice of the United States,”
I wouldn’t dignify the statement by addressing it. No need.
I will not concede that MOST Americans disagree with me, unless I am able to view the demographics of a poll. One cannot understand the logistics of a poll with only part of the information.
Democrats are not highly evolved people. It’s not an opinion, it’s a statement of fact.
7:31 pm [ Quote ]
I will not concede that MOST Americans disagree with me, unless I am able to view the demographics of a poll. One cannot understand the logistics of a poll with only part of the information.
I will address my statement before you even THINK of going down this road, with the following:
Unfortunately, there are several other possible sources of error in all polls or surveys that are probably more serious than theoretical calculations of sampling error. They include refusals to be interviewed (nonresponse), question wording and question order, interviewer bias, weighting by demographic control data and screening (e.g., for likely voters).
8:03 pm [ Quote ]
“represents now the majority voice of the United States,”
I wouldn’t dignify the statement by addressing it. No need.
I will not concede that MOST Americans disagree with me, unless I am able to view the demographics of a poll. One cannot understand the logistics of a poll with only part of the information.
Democrats are not highly evolved people. It’s not an opinion, it’s a statement of fact.
this is going to be an extremely difficult discussion if part of your technique is to take entire issues off the table as non-debatable.
but here i go…
1. you won’t even entertain the very IDEA that the majority of Americans are turning against the Iraq War. that’s quite revealing. are you that dangerously myopic, that you actually believe it’s physically IMPOSSIBLE that people may actually turn against this war?
2. and yet, strangely, you concede by implication that you’re really in NO position to agree (or disagree) with the Harris poll until you can study it. i also understand the vagaries of polls and that they can be “skewered” by both the Right & Left. BUT, are you suggesting that the margin of error in the Harris poll is such that the results would yield the COMPLETE OPPOSITE of its conclusion? a challenge; pull up a poll right now that yields your opinion. find a right-wing think tank that you trust and site it for me and show me how it’s more accurate (and shows that the majority of Americans support the war). btw, and i’m asking geniunely, is the Harris Poll a liberal institution?
3. “Democrats are not highly evolved people. It’s not an opinion, it’s a statement of fact.” you gotta back that up. if it’s a “fact” it shouldn’t be too hard. where’s the scientific community on this?
8:10 pm [ Quote ]
Is the sky blue?
Is there a god?
8:20 pm [ Quote ]
Secondly:
Your statements # 1 & 2 are not even logical. I specifically said that I will not concede that the majority of Americans disagree with me until I view the demographics of ANY POLL! I don’t care whose poll it is! It tells you nothing except that not enough information is available to make a logical conclusion.
And btw, personally, I don’t care about polls—yours, her’s, Harris, or anyone else’s. I care about elections, a statement I made quite clear before. So, no, I’m not going to waste my time researching some stupid poll. I’m sure you’ll make some weak comment that “I must not be able to back up my statement then…” blah, blah, blah.
I will return then to my questions to you about Iraq, the administration and the war on terror. What is your plan, concrete and specific.
8:24 pm [ Quote ]
Here’s just one example of why the polls are useless:
CBS News poll pegged President Bush’s job approval rating at 35 percent. Tom Bevan of Real Clear Politics posted an analysis of this poll’s methodology at his blog last evening (hat tip from a NewsBusters reader named “Jsemby.”) What his figures show is that CBS polled 46% more Democrats in its weighted sample than Republicans:
Answer: I can make a poll say anything for which I have already made a hypothesis. Now I just ask the right people the wrong question.
8:39 pm [ Quote ]
I will return then to my questions to you about Iraq, the administration and the war on terror. What is your plan, concrete and specific
9:26 pm [ Quote ]
first of all, Scooter, just relax. let’s have a civil discussion. we just disagree, ok? i’m not the Enemy, as the much as the Right likes to cultivate that idea.
relax.
to untangle my “illogic,” let me get your own logic straight; you won’t address the very idea that Americans disagree with your pro-war stance. ALL POLLS are illegitimate and only elections are the real reflection of the majority’s opinion. it’s a scientific fact that Democrats are not “highly-evolved people.”
is this correct?
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And a side note to MS UNDERESTIMATED: GREAT JOB! ! ! !
THANK YOU VERY MUCH
Ms. U