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1:37 pm [ Quote ]
“The New York Times” wants to revive their 1971 Pentagon Papers glory days as their market share tanks.
1:47 pm [ Quote ]
To the people who hold stock in this company good luck, because it’s going down the tubes fast. Get out now!! Moreover, I truely hope and pray these people in charge find their way to club Gitmo soon.
1:50 pm [ Quote ]
To the people who hold stock in this company good luck, because it’s going down the tubes fast. Get out now!! Moreover, I truely hope and pray these people in charge find their way to club Gitmo soon.
Yes I will even donate a boat for them to get to gitmo, one with a slow leak so that they get out in the middle and sink and find themselves surrounded by sharks. Oh happy days.
1:51 pm [ Quote ]
Wow… Bush criticises someone who shows up his lies.
Film at at 11 – sun rises in east.
1:52 pm [ Quote ]
Wow… Bush criticises someone who shows up his lies.
Film at at 11 – sun rises in east.
Hey Bill McGubbin say bye bye to the democrat party because it’s a slowly sinking ship. LOL
1:53 pm [ Quote ]
Bill McGubbin trouble is is that democrats don’t know which direction east is in.
2:01 pm [ Quote ]
Wow… Bush criticises someone who shows up his lies.
Film at at 11 – sun rises in east.
What lies?
2:04 pm [ Quote ]
And I was specifics… things he lied about, and not things we had bad information on…
Clinton “Never had sexual relations with THAT woman… Ms. Lewinsky”
What did Bush lie about? Don’t drag WMD into it because we found some in Iraq, and if you believe that Bush lied about them, you have to believe that Clinton lied, Kerry lied, Pelosi lied, Kennedy lied, etcetera, etcetera…
2:13 pm [ Quote ]
And I was specifics… things he lied about, and not things we had bad information on…
Clinton “Never had sexual relations with THAT woman… Ms. Lewinsky”
What did Bush lie about? Don’t drag WMD into it because we found some in Iraq, and if you believe that Bush lied about them, you have to believe that Clinton lied, Kerry lied, Pelosi lied, Kennedy lied, etcetera, etcetera…
Keep going guys.. does seem that a “nya nya nya nya na” is in order here.
2:15 pm [ Quote ]
that doesn’t tell me when Bush lied
that just tells me you’re ‘talking out of your ass’ like most liberals.
2:16 pm [ Quote ]
“The man who fears no truths has nothing to fear from lies.”—Thomas Jefferson
“Our citizens may be deceived for awhile, and have been deceived; but as long as the presses can be protected, we may trust to them for light.”—Thomas Jefferson
2:18 pm [ Quote ]
Wow… Bush criticises someone who shows up his lies.
Film at at 11 – sun rises in east.
It sounds like you’re spinning lol..
2:19 pm [ Quote ]
And I was specifics… things he lied about, and not things we had bad information on…
Clinton “Never had sexual relations with THAT woman… Ms. Lewinsky”
What did Bush lie about? Don’t drag WMD into it because we found some in Iraq, and if you believe that Bush lied about them, you have to believe that Clinton lied, Kerry lied, Pelosi lied, Kennedy lied, etcetera, etcetera…
Keep going guys.. does seem that a “nya nya nya nya na” is in order here.
Keep Meltingdown lol..
2:21 pm [ Quote ]
Good. Get mad. Now drag their asses into court and squeeze until they give up their leak sources.
2:22 pm [ Quote ]
I can picture this guy, staring blankly at his computer screen, trying to come up with something… ANYTHING… that Bush lied about.
and if he ever does think of something he’ll pop a woody
2:22 pm [ Quote ]
And I was specifics… things he lied about, and not things we had bad information on…
Clinton “Never had sexual relations with THAT woman… Ms. Lewinsky”
What did Bush lie about? Don’t drag WMD into it because we found some in Iraq, and if you believe that Bush lied about them, you have to believe that Clinton lied, Kerry lied, Pelosi lied, Kennedy lied, etcetera, etcetera…
Keep going guys.. does seem that a “nya nya nya nya na” is in order here.
Keep Meltingdown lol..
Putting aside the bad “grammer” – Clinton’s blow job resulted in how many civilian deaths?
...
Still counting?
...
Still?
...
2:25 pm [ Quote ]
even highschoolers know you do not write checks for or talk openly on the phone about buying illegal drugs. Do you think the terrorists are dumber than that?
2:26 pm [ Quote ]
Its just hilarious to see bush and co use such strong words as “treasonous” and lets not forget that this “really hurts America in the War on Terror” line.
Nice soundbites. My advice to him, if the info has gotten to a newspaper, he needs to be worried about how it got there and deal with it there.
2:27 pm [ Quote ]
And I was specifics… things he lied about, and not things we had bad information on…
Clinton “Never had sexual relations with THAT woman… Ms. Lewinsky”
What did Bush lie about? Don’t drag WMD into it because we found some in Iraq, and if you believe that Bush lied about them, you have to believe that Clinton lied, Kerry lied, Pelosi lied, Kennedy lied, etcetera, etcetera…
Keep going guys.. does seem that a “nya nya nya nya na” is in order here.
Keep Meltingdown lol..
Putting aside the bad “grammer” – Clinton’s blow job resulted in how many civilian deaths?
...
Still counting?
...
Still?
...
and you stll haven’t brought up one example of a lie that Bush told
and the Clintons had Vince Foster murdered… that’s a bi worse than anything Bush is supposed to have done. Cold blooded murder to keep the Whitewater dirt under wraps is worse than using bad information to go to war… way worse. At least Bush can fall back on “well we went with the best information we had” instead of “we have to get rid of this guy or we could go to jail”
2:30 pm [ Quote ]
And I was specifics… things he lied about, and not things we had bad information on…
Clinton “Never had sexual relations with THAT woman… Ms. Lewinsky”
What did Bush lie about? Don’t drag WMD into it because we found some in Iraq, and if you believe that Bush lied about them, you have to believe that Clinton lied, Kerry lied, Pelosi lied, Kennedy lied, etcetera, etcetera…
Keep going guys.. does seem that a “nya nya nya nya na” is in order here.
Keep Meltingdown lol..
Putting aside the bad “grammer” – Clinton’s blow job resulted in how many civilian deaths?
...
Still counting?
...
Still?
...
and you stll haven’t brought up one example of a lie that Bush told
and the Clintons had Vince Foster murdered… that’s a bi worse than anything Bush is supposed to have done. Cold blooded murder to keep the Whitewater dirt under wraps is worse than using bad information to go to war… way worse. At least Bush can fall back on “well we went with the best information we had” instead of “we have to get rid of this guy or we could go to jail”
Clinton body count? Been smoking weed while watching the x-files, have we?
you clowns really are desperate. Soon we’ll have Clinton on the grassy knoll.
2:36 pm [ Quote ]
ok.. Clinton body count…
Vince Foster…
Every Nato troop that died in Bosnia…
EVERYONE who died on 9/11 (unless you’re stupid enough to believe that the plan was conceived, planned, practiced and carried out in the 8 months between Bush taking office and 9/11… and you are probably that stupid)
Black Hawk Down
The sailors who died on the Cole
The embassy bombings in the 90’s
Waco
Oklahoma City
the list goes on and on and on…
2:38 pm [ Quote ]
ok.. Clinton body count…
Vince Foster…
Every Nato troop that died in Bosnia…
EVERYONE who died on 9/11 (unless you’re stupid enough to believe that the plan was conceived, planned, practiced and carried out in the 8 months between Bush taking office and 9/11… and you are probably that stupid)
Black Hawk Down
The sailors who died on the Cole
The embassy bombings in the 90’s
Waco
Oklahoma City
the list goes on and on and on…
Riight.. Ummm… hello… who was preznit on 9/11? aaaah.. yeah. Him.
2:43 pm [ Quote ]
see? what did I say? You are stupid enough to believe that the entire 9/11 plot was carried out in the 8 months that Bush was in office.
Notice how he doesn’t deny that Billy Blowjob’s bimbo wife had Vince Foster murdered.
When are you going to start with your “Bush stole the election in 2000” shit?
2:47 pm [ Quote ]
see? what did I say? You are stupid enough to believe that the entire 9/11 plot was carried out in the 8 months that Bush was in office.
Notice how he doesn’t deny that Billy Blowjob’s bimbo wife had Vince Foster murdered.
When are you going to start with your “Bush stole the election in 2000” shit?
Ummm… you really need that to be denied? You want me to start denying that Mulder’s sister was kidnapped by Aliens?
You really need to stop getting your news from the National Inquirer.
What happened to executive responsibility? Who ws preznit for a year before 9/11? Who ignored intelligence briefings?
Hmmmm….
2:53 pm [ Quote ]
can’t argue so you resort to childish insults
Thanks… you prove me right
2:53 pm [ Quote ]
Bill the whole point of pimps thing was that Bush didn’t have enough time to avert that problem in 8 months when clinton had 8 years to do it. I personally don’t blame either of them, i blame the people who hijacked the plane and flew it into a tower.
However it seems you totally missed the point with pimp’s message.
Also you still haven’t answered his lies question.
2:56 pm [ Quote ]
I appreciate the fact our Commander-in-Chief is rightfully angry…
Damn, when will the press learn that their freedom comes at the price of a firewall between them and the rest of America… and the Islamofacist terrorist?
2:56 pm [ Quote ]
oh and Billy…. Clinton was in office a year before 9/11… Bush took office in late January 2001
Clinton could have caught Bin Laden in the 90’s and ignored it…
and his wife had Vince Foster murdered… funny how that ‘suicide note’ turned up in his briefcase during the SECOND search of the case.
3:05 pm [ Quote ]
Stay on target. Bush is pissed because someone told him and Gonzales to stick it and ran the story anyway. Now you guys are watching Fox News where a certain “journalist” actually gave away troop positions ON THE AIR (Geraldo). Where were the calls for him to die a traitor’s death or rot in Gitmo?
3:05 pm [ Quote ]
Also what you mean by intelligence briefings, you mean the memo richard clarke left on GW’s desk. So that way he could say hey i told him it would happen. The point is if knew so much about it, he sure as hell didn’t fight to get the info out there.
3:06 pm [ Quote ]
oh and Billy…. Clinton was in office a year before 9/11… Bush took office in late January 2001
Clinton could have caught Bin Laden in the 90’s and ignored it…
and his wife had Vince Foster murdered… funny how that ‘suicide note’ turned up in his briefcase during the SECOND search of the case.
You guys are really, really sad. You have to scratch around a 12 year old urban myth in an attempt to justify bush’s sins?
3:09 pm [ Quote ]
With freedom comes responsibility.
what the NYT did was irresponsible therefore the should not get the freedom.
On the plus side at least they are putting some truth in their stories now instead of just making them up.
3:09 pm [ Quote ]
yummm the “fact” that Bush lied is the Urban Myth.
THE EVENTS SURROUNDING THE DEATH OF VINCENT FOSTER
On July 20, 1993, six months to the day after Bill Clinton took office as President of the United States, the White House Deputy Council, Vincent Foster, told his secretary Deborah Gorham, “I’ll be right back”. He then walked out of his office, after offering his co-worker Linda Tripp, the leftover M&Ms from his lunch tray.
That was the last time Vincent Foster was seen alive.
Contrary to the White House spin, Vincent Foster’s connection to the Clinton’s was primarily via Hillary, rather than Bill. Vincent and Hillary had been partners together at the rose law firm, and allegations of an ongoing affair had persisted from the Little Rock days to the White House itself.
Vincent Foster had been struggling with the Presidential Blind trust. Normally a trivial matter, the trust had been delayed for almost 6 months and the U.S. trustee’s office was beginning to make noises about it. Foster was also the keeper of the files of the Clinton’s Arkansas dealings and had indicated in a written memo that “Whitewater is a can of worms that you should NOT open!”
But Vincent’s position at the White House did not sit well with him. Only days before, following a public speech stressing the value of personal integrity, he had confided in friends and family that he was thinking of resigning his position. Foster had even written an outline for his letter of resignation, thought by this writer to have been used as the center portion of the fake “suicide note”. Foster had scheduled a private meeting with Bill Clinton for the very next day, July 21, 1993 at which it appeared Foster intended to resign.
Vincent Foster had spent the morning making “busy work” in his office and had been in attendance at the White House announcement of Louis Freeh as the new head of the FBI earlier in the day (passing by the checkpoint manned by White House uniformed guard Styles).
This is a key point. The White House is the most secure private residence in the world, equipped with a sophisticated entry control system and video surveillance system installed by the Mitre Corporation. Yet no record exists that Vincent Foster left the White House under his own power on July 20th, 1993. No video of him exiting the building exists. No logbook entry shows he checked out of the White House.
Several hours after he was last seen inside the White House, Vincent Foster was found dead in Fort Marcy Park, in a Virginia suburb just outside Washington D.C.
The death was ruled a suicide (the first major Washington suicide since Secretary of Defense James Forrestal in 1949), but almost immediately rumors began to circulate that the story of a suicide was just a cover-up for something much worse.
The first witness to find the body insisted that there had been no gun near the body. The memory in Foster’s pager had been erased. Critical evidence began to vanish. Many witnesses were harassed. Others were simply ignored. There were even suggestions that the body had been moved, and a Secret Service memo surfaced which reported that Foster’s body had been found in his car! The official reports were self-contradictory.
The Looting of Foster’s office
While the U.S. Park Police (a unit not equipped for a proper homicide investigation) studied the body, Foster’s office at the White House was being looted. Secret Service agent Henry O’ Neill watched as Hillary Clinton’s chief of staff, Margaret Williams, carried boxes of papers out of Vincent Foster’s office before the Park Police showed up to seal it. Amazing when you consider that the official identification of Vincent Foster’s body by Craig Livingstone did not take place until 10PM! Speaking of Craig Livingstone, another Secret Serviceman saw him remove items from Vincent Foster’s office in violation of the official seal. Witnesses also saw Bernard Nussbaum in Foster’s office as well. Three witnesses noted that Patsy Thomason, director of the White House’s Office of Administration, was desperate to find the combination to Vincent Foster’s safe. Ms. Thomason finally opened the safe, apparently with the help of a special “MIG” technical team signed into the White House in the late hours. Two envelopes reported to be in the safe by Foster’s secretary Deborah Gorham, addressed to Janet Reno and to William Kennedy III, were never seen again. When asked the next day regarding rumors of the safe opening, Mack McLarty told reporters Foster’s office did not even have a safe, a claim immediately shot down by former occupants of that office.
The next day, when the Park Police arrived for the official search of Vincent Foster’s office, they were shocked to learn that Nussbaum, Thomason and Williams had entered the office. Conflicts channeled through Janet Reno’s Department of Justice resulted in the Park Police merely sitting outside Foster’s office while Bernard Nussbaum continued his own search of Foster’s office. During this search, he opened and upended Vincent Foster’s briefcase, showing it to be empty. Three days later, it would be claimed that this same briefcase was where the torn up suicide note was discovered.
The boxes of documents removed from Foster’s office by Hillary Clinton’s chief of staff, Margaret Williams, was taken to the private residence area of the White House! Eventually, only 54 pages emerged.
One set of billing records, under subpoena for two years, and thought to have originated in Foster’s office, turned up unexpectedly in the private quarters of the White House, with Hillary’s fingerprints on them!
So, who ordered the office looting?
Bill Clinton was unavailable, being on camera with Larry King. But Hillary Clinton, who had only the day before diverted her planned return to Washington D.C. to Little Rock, was on the phone from Little Rock to someone at the White House in the moments before the looting took place.
The initial reactions
Back in Little Rock, Foster’s friends weren’t buying it. Doug Buford, friend and attorney, stated, “...something was badly askew.” Foster’s brother-in-law, a former congressman, also did not accept that depression was what had been behind the “suicide”: “That’s a bunch of crap.” And Webster Hubbell, former Clinton deputy attorney general, phoned a mutual friend to say, “Don’t believe a word you hear. It was not suicide. It couldn’t have been.”
Outside experts not connected the official investigation also had their doubts.
Vincent J. Scalise, a former NYC detective, Fred Santucci, a former forensic photographer for NYC, and Richard Saferstein, former head of the New Jersey State Crime Lab formed a team and did an investigation of the VWF case for the Western Journalism Center of Fair Oaks, Calif. They arrived at several conclusions:
(1) Homicide cannot and should not be ruled out.
(2) The position of the arms and legs of the corpse were drastically inconsistent with suicide.
(3) Neither of VWF’s hand was on the handgrip when it was fired. This is also inconsistent with suicide. The investigators noted that in their 50 years of combined experience they had “never seen a weapon or gun positioned in a suicide’s hand in such an orderly fashion.”
(4) VWF’s body was probably in contact with one or more carpets prior to his death. The team was amazed that the carpet in the trunk of VF’s care had not been studied to see whether he had been carried to the park in the trunk of his own car.
(5) The force of the gun’s discharge probably knocked VF’s glasses flying; however, it is “inconceivable” that they could have traveled 13 feet through foliage to the site where they were found; ergo, the scene probably was tampered with.
(6) The lack of blood and brain tissue at the site suggests VF was carried to the scene. The peculiar tracking pattern of the blood on his right cheek also suggests that he was moved.
Despite numerous official assurances that Vincent Foster really did commit suicide, more and more Americans, over 70% at the last count, no longer believe the official story. TV specials, most notably the one put out by A&E’s “Inside Investigations” with Bill Kurtis, have failed to answer the lingering questions, indeed have engaged in deliberate fraud to try to dismiss the evidence that points to a cover-up.
3:16 pm [ Quote ]
THE EDITORS (at NRO) : The Bush administration should withdraw White House press credentials from the New York Times and an aggressive investigation should be undertaken to identify and prosecute, at a minimum, the government officials who have leaked national-defense information.
3:25 pm [ Quote ]
THE EDITORS (at NRO) : The Bush administration should withdraw White House press credentials from the New York Times and an aggressive investigation should be undertaken to identify and prosecute, at a minimum, the government officials who have leaked national-defense information.
Well, there’s another blow for free speech – send the NYT to the penalty box.
C’mon, wingnuts – tell us that Fox is the only news we really need. Be honest.
3:26 pm [ Quote ]
withdrawing their credentials would just play into thier hands…
they could run with “White House Censors NY Times” in every liberal newspaper in the country.
Tony Snow put it perfectly ‘The NEW YORK TIMES and other news organizations ought to think long and hard about whether the public’s right to know in some cases might override somebody’s right to live.’
3:26 pm [ Quote ]
yummm the “fact” that Bush lied is the Urban Myth.
THE EVENTS SURROUNDING THE DEATH OF VINCENT FOSTER
On July 20, 1993, six months to the day after Bill Clinton took office as President of the United States, the White House Deputy Council, Vincent Foster, told his secretary Deborah Gorham, “I’ll be right back”. He then walked out of his office, after offering his co-worker Linda Tripp, the leftover M&Ms from his lunch tray.
That was the last time Vincent Foster was seen alive.
Contrary to the White House spin, Vincent Foster’s connection to the Clinton’s was primarily via Hillary, rather than Bill. Vincent and Hillary had been partners together at the rose law firm, and allegations of an ongoing affair had persisted from the Little Rock days to the White House itself.
Vincent Foster had been struggling with the Presidential Blind trust. Normally a trivial matter, the trust had been delayed for almost 6 months and the U.S. trustee’s office was beginning to make noises about it. Foster was also the keeper of the files of the Clinton’s Arkansas dealings and had indicated in a written memo that “Whitewater is a can of worms that you should NOT open!”
But Vincent’s position at the White House did not sit well with him. Only days before, following a public speech stressing the value of personal integrity, he had confided in friends and family that he was thinking of resigning his position. Foster had even written an outline for his letter of resignation, thought by this writer to have been used as the center portion of the fake “suicide note”. Foster had scheduled a private meeting with Bill Clinton for the very next day, July 21, 1993 at which it appeared Foster intended to resign.
Vincent Foster had spent the morning making “busy work” in his office and had been in attendance at the White House announcement of Louis Freeh as the new head of the FBI earlier in the day (passing by the checkpoint manned by White House uniformed guard Styles).
This is a key point. The White House is the most secure private residence in the world, equipped with a sophisticated entry control system and video surveillance system installed by the Mitre Corporation. Yet no record exists that Vincent Foster left the White House under his own power on July 20th, 1993. No video of him exiting the building exists. No logbook entry shows he checked out of the White House.
Several hours after he was last seen inside the White House, Vincent Foster was found dead in Fort Marcy Park, in a Virginia suburb just outside Washington D.C.
The death was ruled a suicide (the first major Washington suicide since Secretary of Defense James Forrestal in 1949), but almost immediately rumors began to circulate that the story of a suicide was just a cover-up for something much worse.
The first witness to find the body insisted that there had been no gun near the body. The memory in Foster’s pager had been erased. Critical evidence began to vanish. Many witnesses were harassed. Others were simply ignored. There were even suggestions that the body had been moved, and a Secret Service memo surfaced which reported that Foster’s body had been found in his car! The official reports were self-contradictory.
The Looting of Foster’s office
While the U.S. Park Police (a unit not equipped for a proper homicide investigation) studied the body, Foster’s office at the White House was being looted. Secret Service agent Henry O’ Neill watched as Hillary Clinton’s chief of staff, Margaret Williams, carried boxes of papers out of Vincent Foster’s office before the Park Police showed up to seal it. Amazing when you consider that the official identification of Vincent Foster’s body by Craig Livingstone did not take place until 10PM! Speaking of Craig Livingstone, another Secret Serviceman saw him remove items from Vincent Foster’s office in violation of the official seal. Witnesses also saw Bernard Nussbaum in Foster’s office as well. Three witnesses noted that Patsy Thomason, director of the White House’s Office of Administration, was desperate to find the combination to Vincent Foster’s safe. Ms. Thomason finally opened the safe, apparently with the help of a special “MIG” technical team signed into the White House in the late hours. Two envelopes reported to be in the safe by Foster’s secretary Deborah Gorham, addressed to Janet Reno and to William Kennedy III, were never seen again. When asked the next day regarding rumors of the safe opening, Mack McLarty told reporters Foster’s office did not even have a safe, a claim immediately shot down by former occupants of that office.
The next day, when the Park Police arrived for the official search of Vincent Foster’s office, they were shocked to learn that Nussbaum, Thomason and Williams had entered the office. Conflicts channeled through Janet Reno’s Department of Justice resulted in the Park Police merely sitting outside Foster’s office while Bernard Nussbaum continued his own search of Foster’s office. During this search, he opened and upended Vincent Foster’s briefcase, showing it to be empty. Three days later, it would be claimed that this same briefcase was where the torn up suicide note was discovered.
The boxes of documents removed from Foster’s office by Hillary Clinton’s chief of staff, Margaret Williams, was taken to the private residence area of the White House! Eventually, only 54 pages emerged.
One set of billing records, under subpoena for two years, and thought to have originated in Foster’s office, turned up unexpectedly in the private quarters of the White House, with Hillary’s fingerprints on them!
So, who ordered the office looting?
Bill Clinton was unavailable, being on camera with Larry King. But Hillary Clinton, who had only the day before diverted her planned return to Washington D.C. to Little Rock, was on the phone from Little Rock to someone at the White House in the moments before the looting took place.
The initial reactions
Back in Little Rock, Foster’s friends weren’t buying it. Doug Buford, friend and attorney, stated, “...something was badly askew.” Foster’s brother-in-law, a former congressman, also did not accept that depression was what had been behind the “suicide”: “That’s a bunch of crap.” And Webster Hubbell, former Clinton deputy attorney general, phoned a mutual friend to say, “Don’t believe a word you hear. It was not suicide. It couldn’t have been.”
Outside experts not connected the official investigation also had their doubts.
Vincent J. Scalise, a former NYC detective, Fred Santucci, a former forensic photographer for NYC, and Richard Saferstein, former head of the New Jersey State Crime Lab formed a team and did an investigation of the VWF case for the Western Journalism Center of Fair Oaks, Calif. They arrived at several conclusions:
(1) Homicide cannot and should not be ruled out.
(2) The position of the arms and legs of the corpse were drastically inconsistent with suicide.
(3) Neither of VWF’s hand was on the handgrip when it was fired. This is also inconsistent with suicide. The investigators noted that in their 50 years of combined experience they had “never seen a weapon or gun positioned in a suicide’s hand in such an orderly fashion.”
(4) VWF’s body was probably in contact with one or more carpets prior to his death. The team was amazed that the carpet in the trunk of VF’s care had not been studied to see whether he had been carried to the park in the trunk of his own car.
(5) The force of the gun’s discharge probably knocked VF’s glasses flying; however, it is “inconceivable” that they could have traveled 13 feet through foliage to the site where they were found; ergo, the scene probably was tampered with.
(6) The lack of blood and brain tissue at the site suggests VF was carried to the scene. The peculiar tracking pattern of the blood on his right cheek also suggests that he was moved.
Despite numerous official assurances that Vincent Foster really did commit suicide, more and more Americans, over 70% at the last count, no longer believe the official story. TV specials, most notably the one put out by A&E’s “Inside Investigations” with Bill Kurtis, have failed to answer the lingering questions, indeed have engaged in deliberate fraud to try to dismiss the evidence that points to a cover-up.
In 25 words or less? Didn’t know the “Elvis Lives” magazine had quite so many words these days.
3:28 pm [ Quote ]
oh and Billy…. Clinton was in office a year before 9/11… Bush took office in late January 2001
Clinton could have caught Bin Laden in the 90’s and ignored it…
and his wife had Vince Foster murdered… funny how that ‘suicide note’ turned up in his briefcase during the SECOND search of the case.
You guys are really, really sad. You have to scratch around a 12 year old urban myth in an attempt to justify bush’s sins?
Just because it’s old news doesn’t mean it can’t be brought up. But I suppose if points are made against your world view you dismiss it as old, eh?
I at least agree with the part about Clinton’s missed opportunities to catch Osama as he treated terrorism as a law enforcement manner and refused Sudan’s offer of Osama Bin Laden’s head on a plate, etc. etc. All the while making love to Monica, lying under oath and selling out the U.S. by giving weapons secrets to China.
Bill, it’s time you start defending your political party and your idols before you attack us as the accuser. That way maybe your image would be cleaned up better. Either that, or at least concede that the War on Terror (and the conflicts in Iraq [which is a part of the War on Terror] that are mainly discussed) is a war that needs to be won and can’t be won overnight, just like the Cold War and how it lasted.
3:34 pm [ Quote ]
Quick Hits…
Just a few quick hits for today..
Are We Lumberjacks share some ACLU photo shops. Here is one of them.
The one on the left is the real ACLU poster. It’s updated for the 21st century on the right. And maybe it’s true; eventually everyo…
3:35 pm [ Quote ]
The thread has wandered away from the subject of the publication by the New York Times of an intelligence program that was aimed at finding out the flow of funds financing jihadist terrorist activities and that represented no threat at all to American liberties. The action of the New York Times was simply indefensible.
It is probably true that the people at the New York Times want, among other things, to revive its “Pentagon Papers” glory days (Rob’s suggestion in post No. 1). But people at the New York Times have no business whatsoever thinking that. The “Pentagon Papers” were internal Government historical studies concerning a war that stayed on the other side of the world, not a current Government intelligence program aiding our ability to defend ourselves against another attack on our soil in a war against jihadists that depends critically on our intelligence gathering.
3:49 pm [ Quote ]
Wow… Bush criticises someone who shows up his lies.
Film at at 11 – sun rises in east.
So Bill I guess you’re ok with leaking of classified information of a legal program to help in the war on terror? And my guess is you were ok with missle technology, ie Loral, being sold to the Chinese under Bill Clinton.
3:54 pm [ Quote ]
oh and Billy…. Clinton was in office a year before 9/11… Bush took office in late January 2001
Clinton could have caught Bin Laden in the 90’s and ignored it…
and his wife had Vince Foster murdered… funny how that ‘suicide note’ turned up in his briefcase during the SECOND search of the case.
You guys are really, really sad. You have to scratch around a 12 year old urban myth in an attempt to justify bush’s sins?
Just because it’s old news doesn’t mean it can’t be brought up. But I suppose if points are made against your world view you dismiss it as old, eh?
I at least agree with the part about Clinton’s missed opportunities to catch Osama as he treated terrorism as a law enforcement manner and refused Sudan’s offer of Osama Bin Laden’s head on a plate, etc. etc. All the while making love to Monica, lying under oath and selling out the U.S. by giving weapons secrets to China.
Bill, it’s time you start defending your political party and your idols before you attack us as the accuser. That way maybe your image would be cleaned up better. Either that, or at least concede that the War on Terror (and the conflicts in Iraq [which is a part of the War on Terror] that are mainly discussed) is a war that needs to be won and can’t be won overnight, just like the Cold War and how it lasted.
the WMD they found in Iraq was old too
4:05 pm [ Quote ]
“Bush Call NY Times, LA Times Leak ‘Disgraceful’” but completely forget the Wall Street Journal printed the story also.
4:09 pm [ Quote ]
yummm the “fact” that Bush lied is the Urban Myth.
THE EVENTS SURROUNDING THE DEATH OF VINCENT FOSTER
On July 20, 1993, six months to the day after Bill Clinton took office as President of the United States, the White House Deputy Council, Vincent Foster, told his secretary Deborah Gorham, “I’ll be right back”. He then walked out of his office, after offering his co-worker Linda Tripp, the leftover M&Ms from his lunch tray.
That was the last time Vincent Foster was seen alive.
Contrary to the White House spin, Vincent Foster’s connection to the Clinton’s was primarily via Hillary, rather than Bill. Vincent and Hillary had been partners together at the rose law firm, and allegations of an ongoing affair had persisted from the Little Rock days to the White House itself.
Vincent Foster had been struggling with the Presidential Blind trust. Normally a trivial matter, the trust had been delayed for almost 6 months and the U.S. trustee’s office was beginning to make noises about it. Foster was also the keeper of the files of the Clinton’s Arkansas dealings and had indicated in a written memo that “Whitewater is a can of worms that you should NOT open!”
But Vincent’s position at the White House did not sit well with him. Only days before, following a public speech stressing the value of personal integrity, he had confided in friends and family that he was thinking of resigning his position. Foster had even written an outline for his letter of resignation, thought by this writer to have been used as the center portion of the fake “suicide note”. Foster had scheduled a private meeting with Bill Clinton for the very next day, July 21, 1993 at which it appeared Foster intended to resign.
Vincent Foster had spent the morning making “busy work” in his office and had been in attendance at the White House announcement of Louis Freeh as the new head of the FBI earlier in the day (passing by the checkpoint manned by White House uniformed guard Styles).
This is a key point. The White House is the most secure private residence in the world, equipped with a sophisticated entry control system and video surveillance system installed by the Mitre Corporation. Yet no record exists that Vincent Foster left the White House under his own power on July 20th, 1993. No video of him exiting the building exists. No logbook entry shows he checked out of the White House.
Several hours after he was last seen inside the White House, Vincent Foster was found dead in Fort Marcy Park, in a Virginia suburb just outside Washington D.C.
The death was ruled a suicide (the first major Washington suicide since Secretary of Defense James Forrestal in 1949), but almost immediately rumors began to circulate that the story of a suicide was just a cover-up for something much worse.
The first witness to find the body insisted that there had been no gun near the body. The memory in Foster’s pager had been erased. Critical evidence began to vanish. Many witnesses were harassed. Others were simply ignored. There were even suggestions that the body had been moved, and a Secret Service memo surfaced which reported that Foster’s body had been found in his car! The official reports were self-contradictory.
The Looting of Foster’s office
While the U.S. Park Police (a unit not equipped for a proper homicide investigation) studied the body, Foster’s office at the White House was being looted. Secret Service agent Henry O’ Neill watched as Hillary Clinton’s chief of staff, Margaret Williams, carried boxes of papers out of Vincent Foster’s office before the Park Police showed up to seal it. Amazing when you consider that the official identification of Vincent Foster’s body by Craig Livingstone did not take place until 10PM! Speaking of Craig Livingstone, another Secret Serviceman saw him remove items from Vincent Foster’s office in violation of the official seal. Witnesses also saw Bernard Nussbaum in Foster’s office as well. Three witnesses noted that Patsy Thomason, director of the White House’s Office of Administration, was desperate to find the combination to Vincent Foster’s safe. Ms. Thomason finally opened the safe, apparently with the help of a special “MIG” technical team signed into the White House in the late hours. Two envelopes reported to be in the safe by Foster’s secretary Deborah Gorham, addressed to Janet Reno and to William Kennedy III, were never seen again. When asked the next day regarding rumors of the safe opening, Mack McLarty told reporters Foster’s office did not even have a safe, a claim immediately shot down by former occupants of that office.
The next day, when the Park Police arrived for the official search of Vincent Foster’s office, they were shocked to learn that Nussbaum, Thomason and Williams had entered the office. Conflicts channeled through Janet Reno’s Department of Justice resulted in the Park Police merely sitting outside Foster’s office while Bernard Nussbaum continued his own search of Foster’s office. During this search, he opened and upended Vincent Foster’s briefcase, showing it to be empty. Three days later, it would be claimed that this same briefcase was where the torn up suicide note was discovered.
The boxes of documents removed from Foster’s office by Hillary Clinton’s chief of staff, Margaret Williams, was taken to the private residence area of the White House! Eventually, only 54 pages emerged.
One set of billing records, under subpoena for two years, and thought to have originated in Foster’s office, turned up unexpectedly in the private quarters of the White House, with Hillary’s fingerprints on them!
So, who ordered the office looting?
Bill Clinton was unavailable, being on camera with Larry King. But Hillary Clinton, who had only the day before diverted her planned return to Washington D.C. to Little Rock, was on the phone from Little Rock to someone at the White House in the moments before the looting took place.
The initial reactions
Back in Little Rock, Foster’s friends weren’t buying it. Doug Buford, friend and attorney, stated, “...something was badly askew.” Foster’s brother-in-law, a former congressman, also did not accept that depression was what had been behind the “suicide”: “That’s a bunch of crap.” And Webster Hubbell, former Clinton deputy attorney general, phoned a mutual friend to say, “Don’t believe a word you hear. It was not suicide. It couldn’t have been.”
Outside experts not connected the official investigation also had their doubts.
Vincent J. Scalise, a former NYC detective, Fred Santucci, a former forensic photographer for NYC, and Richard Saferstein, former head of the New Jersey State Crime Lab formed a team and did an investigation of the VWF case for the Western Journalism Center of Fair Oaks, Calif. They arrived at several conclusions:
(1) Homicide cannot and should not be ruled out.
(2) The position of the arms and legs of the corpse were drastically inconsistent with suicide.
(3) Neither of VWF’s hand was on the handgrip when it was fired. This is also inconsistent with suicide. The investigators noted that in their 50 years of combined experience they had “never seen a weapon or gun positioned in a suicide’s hand in such an orderly fashion.”
(4) VWF’s body was probably in contact with one or more carpets prior to his death. The team was amazed that the carpet in the trunk of VF’s care had not been studied to see whether he had been carried to the park in the trunk of his own car.
(5) The force of the gun’s discharge probably knocked VF’s glasses flying; however, it is “inconceivable” that they could have traveled 13 feet through foliage to the site where they were found; ergo, the scene probably was tampered with.
(6) The lack of blood and brain tissue at the site suggests VF was carried to the scene. The peculiar tracking pattern of the blood on his right cheek also suggests that he was moved.
Despite numerous official assurances that Vincent Foster really did commit suicide, more and more Americans, over 70% at the last count, no longer believe the official story. TV specials, most notably the one put out by A&E’s “Inside Investigations” with Bill Kurtis, have failed to answer the lingering questions, indeed have engaged in deliberate fraud to try to dismiss the evidence that points to a cover-up.
In 25 words or less? Didn’t know the “Elvis Lives” magazine had quite so many words these days.
and you can’t argue with facts
4:24 pm [ Quote ]
Bernie Ward smacks down wingnut talk show host
“Bernie Ward asked right wing talk show host Chris Baker if he thought the government should determine what the media reports. Baker got so upset that he hurled insults at him and then stormed off the set.”
http://www.crooksandliars.com/posts/2006/06/26/bernie-ward-smacks-down-wingnut-talk-show-host/
looks like old Baker would prefer a state-run propaganda media. Why does Russia spring to mind.
4:41 pm [ Quote ]
Ummm in a time of war we should have a “Censorship Department”
Like the one the democrats set up during WW2
4:55 pm [ Quote ]
Ummm in a time of war we should have a “Censorship Department”
Like the one the democrats set up during WW2
The stories would come out in foreign press and in this day and age with the net, it’s not hard for folk in the U.S to read these stories. The U.S Gov. would then have to censor the net like the chinese. But you never know that could already be happening.
5:10 pm [ Quote ]
“The stories would come out in foreign press and in this day and age with the net, it’s not hard for folk in the U.S to read these stories. The U.S Gov. would then have to censor the net like the chinese. But you never know that could already be happening.”
Sorry, no. Unlike the UK, we have an independent, privately owned media. Prior restraint is not necessary or Constitutional – prosecution after publication is.
5:10 pm [ Quote ]
I doubt they would come out of the forign press since most other countries have much tighter restrictions than the US does.
It is the US press that prints stories that the foriegn press is forbidden to print thereby screwing up British, French, Germany anti terrorist opperations.
5:35 pm [ Quote ]
“Bush Call NY Times, LA Times Leak ‘Disgraceful’” but completely forget the Wall Street Journal printed the story also.
Are you accusing our President of being selective in his criticism of the press?
Why do you hate America?
6:58 pm [ Quote ]
How many cibvilian deaths did Clinton’s blowjob cost
Clinton’s blowjob did little, however, because he felt the need to invade Serbia, Kosovo, Bosnia and the Middle East, and then pull out like the skunk coward that he is, plenty of people died. Heck, Osama himself said that Clinton’s pulling out as soon as things got hard made him think he could take on America.
I guess though Bill, you have a short term memory just like every other Democratic traitor. When Clinton tries to be a tough guy and then gets beat back by the smallest of forces, he gets a free pass.
As to the video:
Wow, Bush is pissed. I wouldn’t want to be on his bad side.
9:19 pm [ Quote ]
How many cibvilian deaths did Clinton’s blowjob cost
Clinton’s blowjob did little, however, because he felt the need to invade Serbia, Kosovo, Bosnia and the Middle East, and then pull out like the skunk coward that he is, plenty of people died. Heck, Osama himself said that Clinton’s pulling out as soon as things got hard made him think he could take on America.
I guess though Bill, you have a short term memory just like every other Democratic traitor. When Clinton tries to be a tough guy and then gets beat back by the smallest of forces, he gets a free pass.
As to the video:
Wow, Bush is pissed. I wouldn’t want to be on his bad side.
Wouldn’t want to be on his bad side? You mean like Osama? Wow, he’s done a really, really good job of showing how pissed he is there…. 5 years and still looking, dubya?
9:48 pm [ Quote ]
Wouldn’t want to be on his bad side? You mean like Osama? Wow, he’s done a really, really good job of showing how pissed he is there…. 5 years and still looking, dubya?
Well there’s a salient observation.
When Osama goes the way of Zarqawi, I’m sure you’ll provide another reason your terrorists should’nt be afraid of the U.S.A.
11:30 pm [ Quote ]
Its just hilarious to see bush and co use such strong words as “treasonous” and lets not forget that this “really hurts America in the War on Terror” line.
Nice soundbites. My advice to him, if the info has gotten to a newspaper, he needs to be worried about how it got there and deal with it there.
Well im sure that is being looked into. But you don’t have to conduct an investigation to find out who published to for millions…the whole world to read.
11:35 pm [ Quote ]
“The stories would come out in foreign press and in this day and age with the net, it’s not hard for folk in the U.S to read these stories. The U.S Gov. would then have to censor the net like the Chinese. But you never know that could already be happening. :)”
A civics lesson from the British, how quaint. Maybe you should worry about the thousands of Al Qeada trained terrorist calling the UK home these days.
“Bernie Ward asked right wing talk show host Chris Baker if he thought the government should determine what the media reports. Baker got so upset that he hurled insults at him and then stormed off the set.”
I wonder if the government should filter out sensitive documents handed over to foreign governments, otherwise know as espionage. Probably not, because the enemy has the right to know.
11:37 pm [ Quote ]
So, that pretty much seals the deal. It was wrong for the NYT to do this because Jack Murtha asked them not too. Remember liberals, you can’t question Murtha just like we can’t.
Buh bye NYT….
1:52 am [ Quote ]
Is this all the right can do is call people traitors who don’t agree with them. What a bunch of shit heads you have become….
2:39 am [ Quote ]
ok.. Clinton body count…
Vince Foster…
Every Nato troop that died in Bosnia…
EVERYONE who died on 9/11 (unless you’re stupid enough to believe that the plan was conceived, planned, practiced and carried out in the 8 months between Bush taking office and 9/11… and you are probably that stupid)
Black Hawk Down
The sailors who died on the Cole
The embassy bombings in the 90’s
Waco
Oklahoma City
the list goes on and on and on…
Riight.. Ummm… hello… who was preznit on 9/11? aaaah.. yeah. Him.
Yes he was President, unfortunately it was still Clintons National Security plan that was still in effect.
3:06 am [ Quote ]
Right
ok.. Clinton body count…
Vince Foster…
Every Nato troop that died in Bosnia…
EVERYONE who died on 9/11 (unless you’re stupid enough to believe that the plan was conceived, planned, practiced and carried out in the 8 months between Bush taking office and 9/11… and you are probably that stupid)
Black Hawk Down
The sailors who died on the Cole
The embassy bombings in the 90’s
Waco
Oklahoma City
the list goes on and on and on…
Riight.. Ummm… hello… who was preznit on 9/11? aaaah.. yeah. Him.
Yes he was President, unfortunately it was still Clintons National Security plan that was still in effect.
Riiight… not one for executive responsibility are you?
3:07 am [ Quote ]
[...] Update: For more on the issues parodied in the promo see: Michelle Malkin. Hot Air [and video here] and at Expose the Left, Bush’ reaction and Tony Snow’s comments. [...]
3:11 am [ Quote ]
Right
ok.. Clinton body count…
Vince Foster…
Every Nato troop that died in Bosnia…
EVERYONE who died on 9/11 (unless you’re stupid enough to believe that the plan was conceived, planned, practiced and carried out in the 8 months between Bush taking office and 9/11… and you are probably that stupid)
Black Hawk Down
The sailors who died on the Cole
The embassy bombings in the 90’s
Waco
Oklahoma City
the list goes on and on and on…
Riight.. Ummm… hello… who was preznit on 9/11? aaaah.. yeah. Him.
Yes he was President, unfortunately it was still Clintons National Security plan that was still in effect.
Riiight… not one for executive responsibility are you?
Executive responsibility, huh?
You explain Clinton or Kerry or Edwards… I’ll explain George Bush.
4:13 am [ Quote ]
Right
ok.. Clinton body count…
Vince Foster…
Every Nato troop that died in Bosnia…
EVERYONE who died on 9/11 (unless you’re stupid enough to believe that the plan was conceived, planned, practiced and carried out in the 8 months between Bush taking office and 9/11… and you are probably that stupid)
Black Hawk Down
The sailors who died on the Cole
The embassy bombings in the 90’s
Waco
Oklahoma City
the list goes on and on and on…
Riight.. Ummm… hello… who was preznit on 9/11? aaaah.. yeah. Him.
Yes he was President, unfortunately it was still Clintons National Security plan that was still in effect.
Riiight… not one for executive responsibility are you?
Executive responsibility, huh?
You explain Clinton or Kerry or Edwards… I’ll explain George Bush.
In case you weren’t paying attention – Dubya was preznit on 9/11. Clinton had been out of office almost a year. Kerry and Edwards never had it. So…
8:32 am [ Quote ]
First of all, Bill Clinton ignored numerous opportunities to nab Bin Laden. Sudan offered him up on a platter and Billy refused because he said that despite knowing Osama wanted to hit the US, they had nothing to hold him on.
You can listen to Billy talk about it in his own words by going to
To me… it’s pretty obvious. The question is why did Clinton treat Osama as another legal problem? I guess he had a lot of practice doing that while trying to defend his right to get a BJ while on the job with our dime.
By the way, anyone actually seen Osama… or is he buried in some cave somewhere? I bet he never had to worry about that when Clinton was in office.
8:32 am [ Quote ]
How many cibvilian deaths did Clinton’s blowjob cost
Clinton’s blowjob did little, however, because he felt the need to invade Serbia, Kosovo, Bosnia and the Middle East, and then pull out like the skunk coward that he is, plenty of people died. Heck, Osama himself said that Clinton’s pulling out as soon as things got hard made him think he could take on America.
I guess though Bill, you have a short term memory just like every other Democratic traitor. When Clinton tries to be a tough guy and then gets beat back by the smallest of forces, he gets a free pass.
As to the video:
Wow, Bush is pissed. I wouldn’t want to be on his bad side.
Wouldn’t want to be on his bad side? You mean like Osama? Wow, he’s done a really, really good job of showing how pissed he is there…. 5 years and still looking, dubya?
Osama’s current location:
Hiding in the mountains on the Afghanistan-Pakistan border, with no funding, no communications, and otherwise just living day-to-day between the mountain crags. All his assets are frozen, so the best he can do is drop a videotape every now and then mimicing Democrat talking points.
4:40 pm [ Quote ]
How many cibvilian deaths did Clinton’s blowjob cost
Clinton’s blowjob did little, however, because he felt the need to invade Serbia, Kosovo, Bosnia and the Middle East, and then pull out like the skunk coward that he is, plenty of people died. Heck, Osama himself said that Clinton’s pulling out as soon as things got hard made him think he could take on America.
I guess though Bill, you have a short term memory just like every other Democratic traitor. When Clinton tries to be a tough guy and then gets beat back by the smallest of forces, he gets a free pass.
As to the video:
Wow, Bush is pissed. I wouldn’t want to be on his bad side.
Wouldn’t want to be on his bad side? You mean like Osama? Wow, he’s done a really, really good job of showing how pissed he is there…. 5 years and still looking, dubya?
Osama’s current location:
Hiding in the mountains on the Afghanistan-Pakistan border, with no funding, no communications, and otherwise just living day-to-day between the mountain crags. All his assets are frozen, so the best he can do is drop a videotape every now and then mimicing Democrat talking points.
The “authorities” have been looking for me for longer than 5 years
hiding in plain sight is easy