June 2, 2006
Democratic congressional candidate Francine Busby said “you don’t need papers for voting.” Busby is running to represent California’s 50th district in a June 6th special election.
In the background you could hear someone telling Busby “they said they want to help us.” The next few seconds are muffled, however you can hear Busby responding:
BUSBY: Well sure, everybody can help. Yeah, absolutely. You can all help. Yeah, you don’t need papers for voting, you don’t need to be a registered voter to help.
AUDIO – .MP3
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7:25 pm [ Quote ]
Holy crap, you’ve got to be kidding me! Well, I guess it is official. The law does not apply to everyone. Excuse me, there is a bank down the street that needs a good robbing.
7:31 pm [ Quote ]
oh dear ian 404
change it to mp3 and it works
7:35 pm [ Quote ]
How do you torture “I encourage illegal immigrants to vote” out of “You don’t have to be a registered voter to help”?
You are aware that 30 percent of the country is not registered to vote, right? As in, one in 3. Are you saying they’re all illegal aliens? Wtf? And, furthermore, that they’re legally prevented from working on a campaign?
Where are these laws? I’d like to see them.
7:35 pm [ Quote ]
Now, now, don’t go off half-cocked and paranoid. Did she mean, “You don’t need papers for voting to help”? Or “You don’t need papers to vote?” It isn’t clear. If you think it was, that’s your bias speaking.
Once Ian has the audio clip linked up, perhaps this question can be answered if it provides any additional context.
7:37 pm [ Quote ]
“you don’t need to be a registered voter to help.”
I’ve been smoking the finest Mexican weed all day being a liberal but could that statement not just mean help the campaign out. I know that’s troop hating talk
On a side note can you right wing Fox news aficionados tell me is BRIAN KILMEADE really as thick as he appears to be.
7:39 pm [ Quote ]
Now, now, don’t go off half-cocked and paranoid. Did she mean, “You don’t need papers for voting to help”? Or “You don’t need papers to vote?” It isn’t clear. If you think it was, that’s your bias speaking.
Once Ian has the audio clip linked up, perhaps this question can be answered if it provides any additional context.
open the link in a new window and change .wmv to .mp3 and then the audio will work for you
but its pretty clear to me.
7:42 pm [ Quote ]
Yup, I just did that.
She’s talking about helping, not voting. It’s perfectly clear.
7:43 pm [ Quote ]
Illegals should not be able to help because they should not be here in the first place
7:45 pm [ Quote ]
Ian, you really should remove this article immediately. If you do not, I hope you face charges for libel.
7:46 pm [ Quote ]
lol
perspicio is stupid. how’s that for libel?
7:48 pm [ Quote ]
Wow, I am so shocked. Democrats flouting a pretty important part of the “living” Constitution…
But as long as they can wear Patagonia and birkenstocks and drive Audis, what the fuck, who gives a fuck anyway.
7:49 pm [ Quote ]
Paolo,
It’s hard to construe showing your own ass as libel.
7:50 pm [ Quote ]
She could easily have meant (very innocently) to say this:
You don’t need voting papers in order to help [with my campaign].
I would have been happier if she had reiterated that only registered voters can actually vote, but maybe it never occurred to her that anyone would break the law (or she didn’t want to insult her audience by implying that they might break the law).
I think you’re barking up the wrong tree.
7:52 pm [ Quote ]
Paulo is obviously a legal expert.
You do need to be a citizen to vote, and you do need papers to help because if you don’t, your being here is a crime.
7:52 pm [ Quote ]
I love how this site is a magnet for the lefters to come here and expose themselves. Thanks for re-energizing the right.
7:52 pm [ Quote ]
Ian I’d liberally splash a few “allegedlys” about your comments
7:53 pm [ Quote ]
Thank you Dork!
7:54 pm [ Quote ]
I wouldn’t include any ‘alledgedlys’. CNN doesn’t do it. Nor does CBS or MSNBC. Why should you?
7:56 pm [ Quote ]
It’s incredible to me that people are reading anything about illegal immigrants into this clip. Good Lord, would you please get a grip?
7:57 pm [ Quote ]
I wouldn’t include any ‘alledgedlys’. CNN doesn’t do it. Nor does CBS or MSNBC and Fox alledgedly just make the whole thing up LMAO
8:14 pm [ Quote ]
guys… i live in san diego and this trollop wants to go from a school board job and jump into one of the most conservative district congressional seats in the country just like that… she’s a moron, plain and simple and francine doesn’t stand a chance against bilbray in the general…
8:27 pm [ Quote ]
Asmodeus just because you don’t agree with the lady doesn’t then mean she’s a moron, so i suppose you must be a moron because i don’t agree with you and i must be a moron as you don’t agree with me. So really the whole world is full of morons as you’ll find someone to disagree with.
Now get back to watching turnip head as you wouldn’t want to miss any of his worldly wisdom.[sarcasm]
8:29 pm [ Quote ]
[...] Meanwhile, Expose the Left has audio of Democratic congressional candidate Francine Busby reminding a crowd they don’t need “papers” to vote. Which is quite true and will remain so, despite the best efforts of Mitch McConnell. [...]
9:03 pm [ Quote ]
Yes, this statement is vague enough that she could argue she wasn’t encouraging illegals to vote for her. However, given the Democrat Party’s record of getting dead people to vote for them and being adamantly against voters having to show identification in order to vote, I think Ian is justified in his reading of her statements meaning she want’s illegals to vote for her.
9:07 pm [ Quote ]
Asmodeus just because you don’t agree with the lady doesn’t then mean she’s a moron, so i suppose you must be a moron because i don’t agree with you and i must be a moron as you don’t agree with me. So really the whole world is full of morons as you’ll find someone to disagree with.
Now get back to watching turnip head as you wouldn’t want to miss any of his worldly wisdom.[sarcasm]
He never said that’s why she’s a moron.
9:20 pm [ Quote ]
Asmodeus just because you don’t agree with the lady doesn’t then mean she’s a moron, so i suppose you must be a moron because i don’t agree with you and i must be a moron as you don’t agree with me. So really the whole world is full of morons as you’ll find someone to disagree with.
Now get back to watching turnip head as you wouldn’t want to miss any of his worldly wisdom.[sarcasm]
He never said that’s why she’s a moron.
No he gave no reason at all “she’s a moron, plain and simple” were the exact words.
9:40 pm [ Quote ]
Well we all know illegals get DLs and when you get one of those you get the opportunity to register to vote. Maybe that’s what she’s talking about the loons in SF think the illegals should be allowed to vote for council, mayor, school board, etc. Why don’t we just wave the white flag to Mexico now, that’s what it appears the President and our esteemed Senators want to do. I support the war on terror but I cannot support this amnesty for illegals business. It was a bad idea 20 years ago and it’s an even worse idea today.
However, since she is vague she can play the dumb red head card and get away with it.
9:45 pm [ Quote ]
CA. DEM INVITES ILLEGAL ALIEN HELP…
Oh, yes, she did. Francine Busby, the Democratic candidate in Tuesday’s CA-50 special election has been caught on tape telling a Spanish-speaking audience “You don’t need papers for voting.” Responding to a question from a translator about how …
9:47 pm [ Quote ]
Asmodeus just because you don’t agree with the lady doesn’t then mean she’s a moron, so i suppose you must be a moron because i don’t agree with you and i must be a moron as you don’t agree with me. So really the whole world is full of morons as you’ll find someone to disagree with.
Now get back to watching turnip head as you wouldn’t want to miss any of his worldly wisdom.[sarcasm]
He never said that’s why she’s a moron.
No he gave no reason at all “she’s a moron, plain and simple” were the exact words.
He gave a reason. But you think he didn’t so you just jump to a conclusion that his reason “she disagrees with him?” That’s either contradictory or asinine.
But you’re wrong; he did give a reason:
“[she] wants to go from a school board job and jump into one of the most conservative district congressional seats in the country”
I’ve come to the conclusion, evidenced by your poor reading comprehension, self-contradictions/bad assumptions, that you are a moron.
9:57 pm [ Quote ]
“i live in san diego and this trollop wants to go from a school board job and jump into one of the most conservative district congressional seats in the country just like that”
Not only is she a moron but also a trollop. She may or may not manage to do what she is trying to do but how does that make her a moron & a trollop?
10:00 pm [ Quote ]
Pretending to be stupid doesn’t mean you’re not.
10:10 pm [ Quote ]
I think it’s pretty clear. But I’m not going to say what is pretty clear.
10:12 pm [ Quote ]
This lib idiot is just one of many reasons why the Dems will once again be disappointed come November. The American people have no tolerance for liberals who think they are above the law.
10:16 pm [ Quote ]
Pretending to be stupid doesn’t mean you’re not.
And not pretending to be stupid doesn’t mean you are.
10:20 pm [ Quote ]
You just blew my mind.
10:20 pm [ Quote ]
Pretending to be stupid doesn’t mean you’re not.
And not pretending to be stupid doesn’t mean you are.
But one thing liberals are good at: pretending they’re not pretending to be stupid. Stupid gits.
10:39 pm [ Quote ]
Pretending to be stupid doesn’t mean you’re not.
And not pretending to be stupid doesn’t mean you are.
But one thing liberals are good at: pretending they’re not pretending to be stupid. Stupid gits.
OK, maybe that’s going a little too far. I just wanted to see how deep the quote thing would go.
It did sound to me like the woman was saying “You don’t need papers to vote.” But that’s just me, hearing the words come out of her mouth.
10:53 pm [ Quote ]
Papers? We Don’t Need No Steenking Papers!...
California District 50 is having an election to replace disgraced Congressman “Duke” Cunningham. The district is considered a “safe” seat for Republicans because of their registration advantage. But Democrat Francine Busby has an idea. The Republic…
10:56 pm [ Quote ]
Francine Busby (D-CA): Courting Illegal Alien Voters…
Because every votes counts, and some twice.
Michelle Malkin reports:
Francine Busby, the Democratic candidate in Tuesday’s CA-50 special election has been caught on tape telling a Spanish-speaking audience: “You don’t need papers for voti…
11:00 pm [ Quote ]
Isn’t it a bit presumptuous to assume she’s talking about illegal immigrants, given the huge numbers of unregistered voters in the US?
11:02 pm [ Quote ]
California Democratic Congressional Candidate Francine Busby Courts Illegals for Votes and Support…
When a political candidate responds to a statement about illegal aliens wanting to help her campaign by saying:
BUSBY: Well sure, everybody can help. Yeah, absolutely. You can all help. Yeah, you don’t need papers for voting, you don’t need to b…
11:31 pm [ Quote ]
I think her words are being twisted, but I don’t care. The Democrats lie all the time to win elections. Bout time we do it too.
11:36 pm [ Quote ]
I want to call someone a name. Who should it be?
12:01 am [ Quote ]
Do Democrats Want Illegals To Vote For Them?...
...I think this answers that question…......
12:17 am [ Quote ]
California Democrat Stumping for Illegal Alien Votes…
Remember this Democratic recruitment flier that was distributed at a Dallas illegal alien protest in April? Click to enlarge A California Democrat, Francine Busby, must have taken this flier to heart because she asked her Spanish-speaking audience for …
12:39 am [ Quote ]
You have to appauld the Democrats efforts to get votes. First ressurect the dead; then get the convict vote; now go for the illegal alien vote. What next mail in votes from the Russian politboro?
12:49 am [ Quote ]
Regardless how you wish to spin her statement to help her out of the jam she is in…What was she doing at a nighttime, no press, public restricted event with a bunch of illegal aliens in the first place? And for the rest of you that did not get to here more of the tape, here is another wonderful quote:
“PEOPLE ASK ME WHAT I’M DOING TO REACH OUT IN YOUR COMMUNITY. AND I WILL DO EVERYTHING I CAN TO SUPPORT YOU TO PROMOTE POLICY THAT ARE SUPPORTIVE OF YOUR HEALTH CARE EDUCATION AND FAMILYS. BUT I CAN’T BRING PEOPLE TO VOTE FOR ME ONLY YOU CAN DO THAT.”
Ms Busby will do everything she can to suport the illegals.
12:52 am [ Quote ]
No Papers? No Problem – You Can Vote…......
No word yet whether she passed out wire cutters and maps with directions to particularly desolate sections of the border area…...............
12:57 am [ Quote ]
Just remember the seat she is running for. The seat of a REPUBLICAN Congressman, who plead guilty of taking bribes. $2.4 million dollars worth. I think he has set the world record for graft in our congress. “Top Gun”!
And you wonder why our troops don’t have armor for their humvees, and state of the art body armor.
It is because of sleazebags like “Duke” Cunningham, and the human garbage that vote for them.
Just think there are people in San Diego stupid enough to think that her opponent would actually make America better.
In a pigs eye.
1:06 am [ Quote ]
Hey Dan…does $90K in a freezer ring a bell? I don’t hear of any Democrats caring about our troops not having armor. In fact, many want our troops to die so that they can prove the Right wrong. Sorry, but it’s called the Right for a reason!
2:00 am [ Quote ]
She is obviously pandering to the illegal crowd but she did not advocate for them to vote illegally. She stopped just short of saying that and she definitely should have been more clear.
Perspicio: What’s up with the libel thing? Ian has posts like this all the time.
2:43 am [ Quote ]
[...] Ian Schwartz also has audio and a photo of the candidate. [...]
3:23 am [ Quote ]
There’s Gold In Them There Hills…
Or votes, rather. Has it already begun? The battle for the Latino vote? Upholding the law gets you a slap on the wrist followed by a sudden career change. Efforts such as these are no surprise to most bloggers and readers of blogs….
3:42 am [ Quote ]
I wonder what % of the audience had either citizenship or an authentic green card.
God bless the person who snuck the recorder in.
4:17 am [ Quote ]
Does anyone doubt that Democrats have been courting and knowingly relying on votes of illegal aliens for many years?
If she in fact said that, Busby must drop out because candidates for political office cannot advocate for the disenfranchisement of US citizens.
4:19 am [ Quote ]
The wording is vague; however the intent is evident—what a lout. What a slap in the face to the every-day Joe Sixpack who breaks his balls all year and teaches his kids how sacred the privelege to vote is supposed to be in our great country. Damn it!
4:26 am [ Quote ]
The wording is not vague. She clearly says “you don’t need papers for voting” and “you don’t need to be a registered voter to help”. How much clearer can it get? YOU DON’T NEED PAPERS FOR VOTING means you do not need papers in order to vote. This is simple. The California Board of Elections should yank her out of the race right now!
4:31 am [ Quote ]
Chill out, Paulo; I’m on your side!I think that her words can be read in more than one way; however I contend that her intent was clear: to defraud legitimate voters by recruiting illegals (criminals).
4:32 am [ Quote ]
RadicallyModerate,
Ian frequently maligns the truth, but seldom blatantly lies. In this instance, his headline, CA-50 Democratic Candidate Francine Busby Advocates Undocumented Citizens To Vote For Her, is not a half-truth. It is a bald-faced lie.
While I’m all for letting people show their true colors, such transparently unethical behavior should carry penalties.
Umnumzana, you said:
You have just advocated guilt by association. That is deplorable. By that standard I can connect you with any crime I choose based on your politics, religion, race, etc. I’m surprised at this lapse of principle on your part.
5:06 am [ Quote ]
RadicallyModerate,
Ian frequently maligns the truth, but seldom blatantly lies. In this instance, his headline, CA-50 Democratic Candidate Francine Busby Advocates Undocumented Citizens To Vote For Her, is not a half-truth. It is a bald-faced lie.
While I’m all for letting people show their true colors, such transparently unethical behavior should carry penalties.
Umnumzana, you said:
You have just advocated guilt by association. That is deplorable. By that standard I can connect you with any crime I choose based on your politics, religion, race, etc. I’m surprised at this lapse of principle on your part.
What is deplorable is your lack of logic. “Guilt by association deplorable?”
Puh-leez! It is a very tried and true method of finding criminals.
Ask all of the European countries that regularly using profiling in airports.
This woman’s integrity is brought into question by her pathetic actions alone, not by any party affiliation and certainly not by right wing bias.
5:32 am [ Quote ]
Wow a slanderous mudsling by a rightwinger site using a sentence out of context… the woman running for the seat that had the biggest disgrace should sue this site for libel… but then again right wingers are disgraceful like cunningham anyway, thats what Ian wants more of in the future…
5:41 am [ Quote ]
Jack, why don’t you try using that bump on your shoulders for something besides a bludgeon? You might learn something.
http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/guilt-by-association.html
Profiling is not the same thing as assuming guilt, smart guy. Jesus! Sometimes people’s sheer ignorance and lack of desire to use their heads makes me despair for the future of the species.
5:48 am [ Quote ]
Why is it that all Liberal women are so UGLY looking? YUK PUKE GAG.
5:51 am [ Quote ]
All Liberals Are Pukes. LOL HA HA HA!
6:02 am [ Quote ]
Conservative Women are Sexy, Good Looking, Smart and Honest.
Liberal Women are Fat Bloated Wart Hogs, Flat, Dumb, and Liars.
7:04 am [ Quote ]
[...] ExposeTheLeft has audio [...]
7:09 am [ Quote ]
Scooter, quit talking like a Liberal. You make us all look bad.
7:53 am [ Quote ]
It is obvious what this cow snatch is implying. You have to be a moron not to understand that.
9:01 am [ Quote ]
CA. Dem: “You don’t need papers for voting”...
It shouldn’t come to surprise anyone to hear Democrats continuing to invite illegal immigrants to vote for them. It shows they will do anything to get a vote. Legal or not.
Francine Busby, a Democratic candidate in Tuesday’s CA-50 special electio…
10:01 am [ Quote ]
Perhaps someone should ask her exactly what she meant so that perspicio can stop wetting himself every time he checks this thread.
Hilarious that in the other thread he was lying about Santorum, and now he thinks that Ian is lying, so he’s all indignant. Haha!
10:10 am [ Quote ]
California Democrat Busby Shows Democrats Penchant For Voter Fraud…
Democrats across the country oppose Voter ID bills… which are commonsense laws that simply say you need to prove you are who you are when you vote in an election. Despite this opposition to what could be one of the…...
10:12 am [ Quote ]
We search out misquotes by politicians that take their oppenents statement out of context. This seems to be a major case to: Taking things out of context.
Busby said she was invited to the forum at the Jocelyn Senior Center in Escondido by the leader of a local soccer league. Many of the 50 or so people there were Spanish speakers. Toward the end, a man in the audience asked in Spanish: “I want to help, but I don’t have papers.”
It was translated and Busby replied: “Everybody can help, yeah, absolutely, you can all help. You don’t need papers for voting, you don’t need to be a registered voter to help.”
“I was clarifying the question that was being asked in Spanish and then stated that you do not have to be a registered voter to help the campaign because there were many people who appeared to be to be under 18 in the group who wanted to volunteer,” she said in a statement. “I’m not surprised that the Republican Party is making this last-minute, desperate ploy and it is absolutely false
Busby said that Republicans are now twisting her words. She does not in any way support or advocate that illegal immigrants vote, she said.
10:14 am [ Quote ]
Look, I’m a card-carrying member of the neo-con, Zionist, Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy, and even I think she was talking about not being a registered voter yet still being able to help.
I don’t want to get into Clintonian parsings, but I think that this is an example of a quote taken out of context.
Ian, admit that the first impression was not correct, and back out gracefully. Save your ammo for real targets. This is chaff.
10:35 am [ Quote ]
Does anyone know how the debate went last nite? I read that they were to have a debate last nite in Carlsbad.
11:06 am [ Quote ]
Papers? What Papers? We don’t need no stinking papers to vote?
Now, the democrats are out to destroy the integrity of our Voting system.
(Now, if you don’t think the Democrats aren’t out to destroy this country, this SHOULD change your mind. And George W. Bush, and the Senate, also)
I hope a grassroots organization springs out from all this craziness, so we can throw out all these traitors.
11:50 am [ Quote ]
Did anyone else hear the news? John Kerry was in Vietnam!
1:14 pm [ Quote ]
YOU DON’T NEED PAPERS FOR VOTING means you do not need papers in order to vote.
That, or it means you don’t have to show your voter card.
But what’s all this talk of “papers”? You guys seem to be bringing up the old “Papers, please” we recall from the days of Jim Crow and totalitarianism. We are not. I think that’s rather telling.
1:22 pm [ Quote ]
The Guest Voters Act…
Who didn’t see this coming?......
1:43 pm [ Quote ]
According to HAVA she’s right: you don’t need papers to vote. Your vote needs only to match up against your voter registration for your provisional ballot to count. This ‘illegals voting’ red herring is nothing more than shameful, ignorant projection.
2:11 pm [ Quote ]
Maybe some of you are to blind to read, or you just ignor the facts but read listing no. 72. She never said anyting aobut note having papers to vote, she was quoted out of contect.
I have never seen such a bunch or narrow minded make up our mind before we see the facts group of people. That must be the true meaning of a neocon…..........
2:18 pm [ Quote ]
California Democrat Urges “Undocumented Citizens” To Vote For Her…
Democratic congressional candidate Francine Busby said “you don’t need papers for voting.” Busby is running to represent California’s 50th district in a June 6th special election.
In the background you could hear someone telling Busby “th…
3:25 pm [ Quote ]
What is an “Undocumented Citizen” anyway Ian?
Sounds like an oxymoron to me. How appropriate.
You’re either undocumented in which case you’re illegal, or you’re a citizen in which case you have the citizenship papers (ie. document) to show it.
4:26 pm [ Quote ]
There is no such thing as an “undocumented citizen.”
These scum are invaders and thieves, but not “citizens,” and if we keep up the pressure they never will be.
4:52 pm [ Quote ]
In the U.S. Illegally? We Want Your Vote!...
Whoops! I bet Francine Busby didn’t want this statement recorded: You don’t need papers for voting. Unfortunately for her, it was (h/t: Drudge):If an election can turn on a sentence, this could be the one: “You don’t need papers for…
5:26 pm [ Quote ]
Asmodeus just because you don’t agree with the lady doesn’t then mean she’s a moron, so i suppose you must be a moron because i don’t agree with you and i must be a moron as you don’t agree with me. So really the whole world is full of morons as you’ll find someone to disagree with.
Now get back to watching turnip head as you wouldn’t want to miss any of his worldly wisdom.[sarcasm]
He never said that’s why she’s a moron.
No he gave no reason at all “she’s a moron, plain and simple” were the exact words.
He gave a reason. But you think he didn’t so you just jump to a conclusion that his reason “she disagrees with him?” That’s either contradictory or asinine.
But you’re wrong; he did give a reason:
“[she] wants to go from a school board job and jump into one of the most conservative district congressional seats in the country”
I’ve come to the conclusion, evidenced by your poor reading comprehension, self-contradictions/bad assumptions, that you are a moron.
Don’t really have anything to say. Just wanted to know what quadruple quotes looked like.
5:27 pm [ Quote ]
and they look long
5:50 pm [ Quote ]
[...] Meanwhile, Expose the Left has audio of Democratic congressional candidate Francine Busby reminding a crowd they don’t need “papers” to vote. Which is quite true and will remain so, despite the best efforts of Mitch McConnell. [...]
6:20 pm [ Quote ]
Progressives Wouldn’t Steal An Election…
Dump the black vote, its not as dependable anymore. There are people like Condi who sale out and dont want the progressives telling them how to vote and what to think. Besides, counting illegal aliens, there are a lot more hispanics than blacks….
6:53 pm [ Quote ]
I truly think she was meaning for them to help with her campaign. There are checks and balances in place for voting to verify validity of the voter. Why do you think the “dead peoples” votes were caught. The same would hold true if illegals were to vote.
I just don’t see why they would be ALLOWED to help since they are illegals to begin with. According to the Mexican Constitution, even if you’re a REGISTERED and LEGAL person in Mexico, you’re still not allowed to help. Any person not of Mexican descent can not participate in ANY political areas period. The same should apply here as well.
9:36 am [ Quote ]
California Democrat Urges Illegals to “Help”...
Ok, It’s Sunday and I finally have some time to start getting caught up on a bunch of things that have been happening lately. First off there is Francine Busby who is a candidate for Californias 50th district. Do I ned to tell you what party she i…
12:49 pm [ Quote ]
Busby was talking to Spanish-speakers, so they must be illegal immigrants? Talk about prejudice.
4:03 pm [ Quote ]
Conservative Women are Sexy, Good Looking, Smart and Honest.
Liberal Women are Fat Bloated Wart Hogs, Flat, Dumb, and Liars.
Such as mancoulter? Please leave your remarks for the schoolbus you get on in the mornings.
4:41 pm [ Quote ]
How do you torture “I encourage illegal immigrants to vote” out of “You don’t have to be a registered voter to help”?
You are aware that 30 percent of the country is not registered to vote, right? As in, one in 3. Are you saying they’re all illegal aliens? Wtf? And, furthermore, that they’re legally prevented from working on a campaign?
Where are these laws? I’d like to see them.
BUSTED IAN!
6:53 pm [ Quote ]
[...] Ok, It’s Sunday and I finally have some time to start getting caught up on a bunch of things that have been happening lately. First off there is Francine Busby who is a candidate for California’s 50th district. Do I ned to tell you what party she is from? Really? You don’t have a clue? Ok then – she’s a Democrat. A friend of mine tipped me off to her telling illegals that they didn’t need to be registered to vote and that they could help and Expose the Left has the audio of this. Well sure, everybody can help. Yeah, absolutely. You can all help. Yeah, you don’t need papers for voting, you don’t need to be a registered voter to help. Stolen from American Conservative Daily who stole it from Expose the Left [...]
8:06 pm [ Quote ]
Let’s return to the whole quote, so as to definitively determine the proper meaning:
“You can all help. Yeah. You don’t need papers for voting, you don’t need to be a registered voter to help”.
There is no legitimate way a person with a grasp of standard English would even think about arguing that the italicized fragment, in context, could possibly be read as “You don’t need papers to vote. Let’s have a little English lesson to prove that, shall we?
In standard English, for voting in the fragment You don’t need papers for voting is an adjective phrase that modifies the object noun papers. As in the proper parsing of the fragment:
You – subject
don’t need – phrasal verb (negated)
papers for voting – object (noun modified by a adjectival prepositional phrase)
Any native English speaker of normal competence would look to context to determine why, or for what, one would not need papers for voting to turn the fragment into a sentence. The infinitive verb form to help (“in the campaign” as stated in the preceeding comments by Busby and the question to which she was responding), both before and after the fragment in question, supplies the information needed to turn it into a sentence and ascertain the meaning. As in:
To help (in the campaign), you don’t need papers for voting.
Or
You don’t need papers for voting to help (in the campaign)
There is no possible sensible argument as to the proper reading of the statement here. Only an opportunity to claim to have ESP into the mind of Busby and/or demonstrate a limited grasp of standard English usage. Or, of course, a desire to engage in an intellectually dishonest propoganda exercise. I’ll offer no judgment as to which is going on here.
Two good references on understanding standard English that you can try to argue with instead of me, if you really want to try that, are:
1) Perrin and Ebbit, “Writer’s Guide and Index to English”.
2) Strunk and White, “The Elements of Style”.
8:16 pm [ Quote ]
What part of “You dont have need papers for voting” dont you understand? It might have been a slip but thats exactly what she was wanting to get across.
8:20 pm [ Quote ]
Try to spin it any way you like but her exact words were “You don’t need papers for voting”. She got caught.
8:20 pm [ Quote ]
And exposed, I might add.
8:36 pm [ Quote ]
This is NOT an American political movement. It is an Invasion! What we are seeing is Non-American forces rise to power inside our country. Their goal is to vote America out. Dont count on the Democrats being in control of this invasion. The illegal aliens are not here to assimilate into our culture, but to change it. They will vote Mexican. We are starting to see this in Los Angeles. We will have our own Palestinian problem here in America and a language system like Canada.
It is foreign politics rise to power. It has escalated beyond just a border issue. Remember, wars have often been fought over land disputes.
You can be philosophical all you want, but these people are going to destroy, not build this country. This is the 60’s all over again but worse. There are splinter groups in this country that are armed and are not going to put up with it. I hope you have a plan when the violence starts. When these power movements connect up with the Arabs this country will go up in flames. The anarchists are hiding behind these people, they are riding on the backs of the illegals, so for now they have cover. Even when the Mafia came to this country, they became Americans. Shut the border or learn Spanish! The biggest threat to America is the southern threat.
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10:28 pm [ Quote ]
Calif Dem to illegal immigrant: “You don’t need papers for voting”...
Hey, it worked for Lorretta Sanchez so why not for Democratic congressional candidate Francine Busby as she openly courts the illegal alien vote in the race to replace disgraced GOP congressman Duke Cunningham (now wearing prision stripes). Expose the …
11:58 pm [ Quote ]
[...] Powerline, Michelle Malkin, Ian Schwartz and too many other to count are in a tizzy over Congressional candidate Francine Busby’s statement that “Everybody can help, yeah, absolutely, you can all help. You don’t need papers for voting, you don’t need to be a registered voter to help.” [...]
12:48 am [ Quote ]
“Try to spin it any way you like but her exact words were “You don’t need papers for voting”.”
But its true. Here where I live you don’t need to bring papers to vote.
And you also don’t need to have papers for voting, AKA voting papers, AKA be a registered voter, to volunteer.
11:46 am [ Quote ]
Regardless of whether or not she said voting or helping, illegal aliens should not even be helping campaigns in this country. That would be influencing politics in a country that they legally have no right to be in. What would happen if we went to Mexico or anyplace else, and started voting there or physically helping some candidates campaign. Ironically, Mexico has one of the toughest sets of immigration laws in the world, so I don’t think that they would be just dandy about us voting. Where I live they don’t ask for id to vote, but if your names not on their list, you ain’t voting.
12:59 pm [ Quote ]
Asmodeus just because you don’t agree with the lady doesn’t then mean she’s a moron, so i suppose you must be a moron because i don’t agree with you and i must be a moron as you don’t agree with me. So really the whole world is full of morons as you’ll find someone to disagree with.
Now get back to watching turnip head as you wouldn’t want to miss any of his worldly wisdom.[sarcasm]
i don’t think she’s a moron because i disagree with her… i just think she’s a moron, plain and simple… she has no new ideas, she really doesn’t even have an idea period… she’s the only liberal/leftist candidate that the DNC could come up with to run in the 50th and she gives excellent recorded speeches about illegals being able to vote…
in any event, kindly shut the fuck up…
1:03 pm [ Quote ]
She is obviously pandering to the illegal crowd but she did not advocate for them to vote illegally. She stopped just short of saying that and she definitely should have been more clear.
Perspicio: What’s up with the libel thing? Ian has posts like this all the time.
of course she’s pandering to the illegal crowd… know why…? because in the 50th they have one of the largest illegal populations in the country of san diego, that’s why…
7:54 pm [ Quote ]
[...] FOX News’ Carl Cameron does an investigative report on Francine Busby telling a crowd of people “you don’t need papers to vote” Busby doesn’t acknowledge she made the remarks CAUGHT ON TAPE, but instead tries to act tough: [...]
3:23 am [ Quote ]
Busby And The “Papers” Comment…
I was willing to let this one slide when it first came out because, after all, how many of us have never misspoke about something in our lifetime? When I first listened to the clip, I thought, “Well, she didn’t mean for them to go out and vote for h…
7:21 pm [ Quote ]
Hey, she has already explained this, OK?
She did not say what she said.
And even if she DID say what she said, it doesn’t mean what it means.
Maybe she just thought he was a voter who was looking for a copy of the San Diego Union Tribune.
5:33 am [ Quote ]
She was for illegal invaders voting for her before she said she didn’t say what she said.
Translation: It all depends on what your definition of “is”, is.
8:25 pm [ Quote ]
Ms. Busby was asked a question in Spanish—which is somehow never translated as part of the very small slice of quote from a rather lengthy campaign appearance.
The man asked (where actually audible): “...how we can help?
Notes of interest:
1) There is no way to know the actual gist of the conversation from the audio. It sounds like Busby may have been referring to:
2) The fact that Republican and Democratic activists alike working in the border counties of the Southwest—and other states—have been known to call naturalized Americans who LEGALLY REGISTERED to vote and “suggest” they need to bring all of their “citizenship forms and records” to the polls in order to vote. [This violates the 14th Amendment to the Constitution.]
So when she said “you do not need papers to vote”—there is precedent to remind some in an Hispanic audience that all a legally registered voter needs to bring to the polls is their voter registration card or whatever else the state uses to verify voters.
3)You do not need to be a US citizen to work on someone’s campaign for elective office. Busby saying—in the last half of the sound bite—“anyone can help” is quite legal under US and California law.
Busby is no skilled orator—that’s for sure. On the other hand, I hope true Republicans can understand and at least empathize with relative newcomers to the country. I don’t support undocumented workers given free access to our borders—or the vote. Nor do I condone the people who exploit illegals while the country continues to debate a better way to handle immigration from the rest of the Americas.
But please understand this: Democrats as well as Republicans have long been using their political “tricks of the trade” to use Latino-Americans for whatever advantages they could. It was the NORM for Texas Democrats to simply “go down and buy votes” in border town barrios in close races.
How else can you explain Lyndon Johnson winning the Dem Senate primary in Texas by getting Latinos in a Laredo County township to vote for him unanimously—and “in alphabetical order?” That was in a state-wide US Senate primary where Johnson won by a whopping 87 votes.
I think this country can do better. Busby is history but I hope nobody goes off on some half-bent crusade “to keep illegals from voting” when there is no political movement afoot to support this hare-brained idea. Time would be better spent catching folks who forge documents—in which there is a thriving industry of rather sizable proportions.
10:29 pm [ Quote ]
Just an extra note:
Don’t know if this is “exposes the Left” material but it’s close enough:
The man Lyndon Johnson “beat” in 1948 was one Coke Stevenson, the retiring Democratic Governor of Texas.
LBJ wasn’t a liberal in those days although he was a staunch New Dealer. Even so, he was one of the more conservative Democrats in the US House.
What LBJ definitely was: a hard-boiled pol who would stoop to any level to finally get into the US Senate. Stevenson got smeared mercilessly by the Johnson campaign—mostly by accusations that he was “on the take” from oil companies. One company in particular—Magnolia Oil—was alleged to pass money under the table to Stevenson in exchange for rights to drill for oil on his ranch. Supposedly, as LBJ alleged before and after the Senate campaign, the company never drilled for oil on Stevenson’s land—nor intended to.
The New Republic re-opened the LBJ allegations about Stevenson in a 1990 article. Had the publication even bothered to check the country records of both Stevenson and the oil leases, they would never have run the story. Stevenson in the meantime had died in 1975.
Coke Stevenson was an old-style Conservative, a “States’ Rightist”—and a man of integrity worth emulating. He lost in 1948 not because he was corrupt—but because he refused to stoop to LBJ’s level.
More can be found on Coke Stevenson and the oil leases he signed at:
http://www.robertacaro.com/coke.htm
He was one man who never took a dime he didn’t earn. Too bad history remembers him otherwise.
1:30 am [ Quote ]
Thank god that commie pig
was dumb enough to say that
while the tape was rolling!