You would thinks the libbys would at least wait until the actual report is issued before they voice their opinion. Then again they are liberals and common sense doesnt come easy to them.

“Murtha explained that the stress on our troops coupled with the mishandling of their needs by this administration is the root cause of this horrific behavior.”

There we go trying to understand the murderers again. Silly liberals.

“This just shows how far Democrats and liberals will go to bash and dishonor our troops.”

Whatever. Maybe preventing it from happening again and ensuring troops remain honorable aren’t priorities for the fascist murderous Right.

What an unprofoundly thing to say… So you hate america enough to hate half of its countrymen for voicing their opinion on a matter… seems lately guys like rummy and his ilk have been lost in running the military and the war considering all the avoiding hes been doing of late and making a complete jackass of himself.

London Times.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,7374-2097541.html

It is not like it is just the Democrats that know this happened.

At least the Democrats will deal with the catastrophe, and not ignore it and “pretend” it didn’t happen.

I just want my government officials to tell me the truth for once.

How about you?

By the say righties, you better not read this article by Judith Miller.

All the warnings Bush ignored before 9-11. Kinda makes you want to kiss him right?

http://www.alternet.org/story/36388

How many warnings did the Bushies ignore? Hundreds? Thousands?

Maybe someone should have told them there was this Al Queda group that wanted to attack America. Oh I forgot. They weren’t listening to anyone. The were too busy dividing up our treasure amongst their friends.

Keep waiting or move to Pago-Pago, theyre politicians after all.

Im still waiting for the democrats to deal with the Iranian embassy takeover, among other incidents, and stop “pretending” that it didnt happen.

This just shows how far Democrats and liberals will go to bash and dishonor our troops

You repugs just don’t get it. We’re not bashing our dishonoring our troops. We just want the few soldiers responsible for this atrocity to be held responsible, so the hundreds of thousnads of other troops aren’t labled as baby killers and bashed around the world.

“deal with the Iranian embassy takeover, among other incidents, and stop “pretending” that it didnt happen.”

The one where Reagan “pretended” they wouldn’t deal with terrorists?

LOL

At least the Democrats will deal with the catastrophe, and not ignore it and “pretend” it didn’t happen.

Yeah, just like they dealt with catastrophies in the 90s, in the form of repeated terrorist attacks.

You mean all the warnings the Bush admin received in the whole eight months they were in office before the attacks?

Unless of course you believe that the 911 attacks were conceived, planned, trained, orchestrated and executed in only eight months.

How many warnings did the Clinties (yes, the ‘N’ is supposed to be there) ignore? Hundreds? Thousands? How many attacks against us did they ignore? Dozens?

Maybe someone should have told Clinton that there was this Al Queda group that wanted to attack America.

Oh I forgot. They weren’t listening to anyone, they were too busy denying the nature of all the attacks against our installations and citizens.

These liberal faggots like John are then suprised why 75% of the military voted for Bush.

tee hee..

You repugs just don’t get it. We’re not bashing our dishonoring our troops. We just want the few soldiers responsible for this atrocity to be held responsible, so the hundreds of thousnads of other troops aren’t labled as baby killers and bashed around the world.

You moonbats just dont get it, youre too late. The left has been labeling the soldiers baby-killers since Vietnam. My hometown paper is still running cartoons that depict soldiers as drooling idiots.

Oh sure, you took a few months off when veteran Kerry took the stage, but he was an anomoly. Attend an anti-war rally sometime and view the continuing denigration of our troops by their fellow, enlightened citizens.

The one where Reagan “pretended” they wouldn’t deal with terrorists?

No, the one where Carter made us look like a third-rate banana republic while a bunch of unwashed savages paraded our citizens like zoo exhibits. That one.

No LOL Im afraid.

Dan… thanks.
Putting on a tinfoil hat in an attempt to feel your pain…
I’d forgotten how Clinton had cynically had the USS Cole bombed by Navy SEALs posing as terrorists within 30 days of an election so as to bolster the chances of fellow traveller Al Gore.
I’d also forgotten the state of disarray within the intelligence gathering community that Clinton pushed off on Bush so that less than nine months after taking office Bush’s administration had to deal with Clinton’s mess in the form of terrorists striking the WTC and Pentagon.
The left applauded Bush’s stated goals of a global war on terror then, but soon began to snipe as soon as Bush began… well… actually doing something about it.
This sort of activity was completely disorienting to the left as accustomed as they’d become to stern platitudes and the occasional cruise missle supplanting real accomplishment Clinton’s “time out for terrorists” doctrine..

Liberals = Anti-soldier

no investigation needed!

1. It is troop bashing when guilt is assumed prior to the facts being presented and the UCMJ process has a chance to litigate the matter. The assumption should be, we don’t know what happened and until all the facts are known we choose to believe the best of our military.

2. We were attacked by a murderous enemy and we are in the middle of a global war against Islamic terrorism. Thus, two things must be remembered: (a) War is never a tidy affair and while misconduct will happen in war, such incidents should not condemn the 99+% of soldiers performing their duties in a professional, honorable and quite often heroic manner. Such rare incidents likewise do not indicate the civilian military leadership and the administration in power approved of or covered-up such conduct.(b) Facts in such incidents always change over time and a rush to judgment is grossly unfair.

3) I get weary of the left claiming Bush lied or ignored facts. Most of the facts surrounding this war cannot be clear and cannot be fully disclosed, and America still expect the country to wage an effective war. Charges by the opposing party do not equal absolute proof of guilt.

4) When Murtha compared this incident to My Lai (1968), even before the investigation is completed and the military justice system has a chance to deal with whatever may have happend, is grossly irresponsible and partisan in the extreme.

5) If the report indicates nothing criminal happened or that no conduct unbecoming was involved, the left will claim a cover-up. If the report indicates something may have happened, the left will make claims of absolute guilt.

Since our military sacrifice their lives, fortunes and their families in defense of liberty, it seems that the least they deserve is the presumption on innocence unless and until the legal system judges otherwise. Is that so unreasonable? Is constant assumption of guilt by the left, following any accusation, because of their hatred for Bush seem fair?

Liberal Smasher, you’re a joke. Everything about you is a joke. How about once, just once make a point without calling someone a faggot. I know, I know, when you always have a dick in your mouth like you do, it’s tough to think about any thoughts besides “faggot” and gay. Keep up the intelligent conversation, fucking loser.

#6 Hey corn dog. Don’t you remember the republicans paying the mullahs cash to hold the hostages till after Reagan’s election?

I wonder how good of job Carter could have done if the Republicans weren’t trying to hurt our country to make him look bad.

You remember Carter, the president who wanted us to switch to alternative energy 20 years ago.

Liberal Smasher, you’re a joke. Everything about you is a joke. How about once, just once make a point without calling someone a faggot… Keep up the intelligent conversation, fucking loser.

Oh the irony.

#10 hey corn. You should read Richard Clarke’s book. All the people that were working on tracking Al Queda were switched to Saddam when Bush took over.

Corn Dog, no shit, that was the point….Looks pretty foolish doesn’t it? Hard to take someone seriously isn’t it?

#6 Hey corn dog. Don’t you remember the republicans paying the mullahs cash to hold the hostages till after Reagan’s election?

What I remember is a mob of savages parading our citizens around blindfolded, holding mock executions, beating them, subjecting them to humiliating interviews and generally treating them like shit…while Carter pissed his pants and did NOTHING for five months.

I wonder how good of job Carter could have done if the Republicans weren’t trying to hurt our country to make him look bad.

Yeah, thats it. The republicans made Carter wait forever before he sent an ill-conceived and supported rescue mission to the Iranian desert. When it failed he pissed his drawers yet again.

You remember Carter, the president who wanted us to switch to alternative energy 20 years ago.

I remember Carter who managed to get the interest rates into the high teens.

Corn Dog, no shit, that was the point….Looks pretty foolish doesn’t it? Hard to take someone seriously isn’t it?

No, I think you made a mistake and got caught with your pants down. Now youre trying to pretend you meant to write that. Dog, hunt, no.

I’m Sure the Troops Feel Congressman John Murtha is Showing Them Love…NOT!...

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#10 hey corn. You should read Richard Clarke’s book. All the people that were working on tracking Al Queda were switched to Saddam when Bush took over.

Is that the same Clarke who switched hats and mugged for the camera with the genocidal dictator Milosevic?

Or is it the Clarke that gave several different accounts of the things he mentions in his book?

Or is it the Clarke that fails to include certain important details that would have sunk the arguments he tries to make?

Or perhaps you meant the Clarke who abjectly refuses to criticize the Clinton administration for failing to destroy AQ during its tenure?

That Richard Clarke?

Someone here is actually defending Carter? CARTER? Jimmy Carter?

AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAAA

HAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA….SNORT…AHHAHAHAHAHHAHA

Hotep of Gaul on May 18, 2006 at 9:13 pm said:

Someone here is actually defending Carter? CARTER? Jimmy Carter?

AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAAA

HAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA….SNORT…AHHAHAHAHAHHAHA

Did you’re drink spew all over the keyboard like mine did when I laughed my ass off at someone defending President Peanut lol..

Rabid Corn Dog on May 18, 2006 at 9:09 pm said:

#10 hey corn. You should read Richard Clarke’s book. All the people that were working on tracking Al Queda were switched to Saddam when Bush took over.

Is that the same Clarke who switched hats and mugged for the camera with the genocidal dictator Milosevic?

Or is it the Clarke that gave several different accounts of the things he mentions in his book?

Or is it the Clarke that fails to include certain important details that would have sunk the arguments he tries to make?

Or perhaps you meant the Clarke who abjectly refuses to criticize the Clinton administration for failing to destroy AQ during its tenure?

That Richard Clarke?

Richard Clarke is a Tard who used 9/11 to sell him dumbass book..

Johnny Utah on May 18, 2006 at 9:26 pm said:

Rabid Corn Dog on May 18, 2006 at 9:09 pm said:

#10 hey corn. You should read Richard Clarke’s book. All the people that were working on tracking Al Queda were switched to Saddam when Bush took over.

Is that the same Clarke who switched hats and mugged for the camera with the genocidal dictator Milosevic?

Or is it the Clarke that gave several different accounts of the things he mentions in his book?

Or is it the Clarke that fails to include certain important details that would have sunk the arguments he tries to make?

Or perhaps you meant the Clarke who abjectly refuses to criticize the Clinton administration for failing to destroy AQ during its tenure?

That Richard Clarke?

Richard Clarke is a Tard who used 9/11 to sell him dumbass book..

And Bush used 9/11 to get reelected. If he was so concerned with National security then why has it taken him over 5 years to secure our borders?

What flag is bush waving in this video?:

http://movies.crooksandliars.com/gwb_RNCHispanic.wmv

Liberals are killing the troops to save them…

MY LAI! MY LAI! MY LAI

This Haditha thing didn’t happen. It’s impossible. We shouldn’t even be talking about it. Just discussing such an event is un-American. Abu Ghraib didn’t happen either. Those photos were all doctored. The troops were sent to Iraq fully prepared with plenty of body armor. Suggesting otherwise proves your hate for America; move to France hippies.

joe,

Oooo… looks like the faggot joe is mad now.

tee hee, what a liberal faggot.

I, Nancy Pelosi, do solemnly swear to support the troops…until it become’s political expedient for me to betray them (again) on national television.

And btw, I’m very impressed with the moonbats here not (yet) having called Brit Hume “the horrible scumbag, who many people consider somewhat responsible for the fact that his son committed suicide.”

Let’s see what happened on this one before taking a firm position.

The Liberal pinheads who come on here looking for any reason to slander U.S. troops (their own troops) without evidence are of course despicable.

But we don’t know if a crime occurred. If it did, it may have been cold blooded premeditated murder on innocent Iraqi people.

Considering that one of the people I know and care about the most is a 32-year old Iraqi woman who works for the government and is trying to help her country be a better place, despite her fears and sadness about the fighting in her country (and her despising the previous murderous Hussein regime), I object to anyone who kills innocent Iraqis.

If that was their troops (and that’s a possibility), they should be tried and punished. If it was U.S. troops, they should be tried and punished.

And the death penalty should not be taken off the table.

If U.S. troops committed an atrocity, and it’s a big unproven if, then they have done more harm to the war effort than any good they have done over their military careers, they have dishonored the Marine Corps, and harmed their country.

They would be murderers before the eyes of God and man and should pay for their crimes.

If they’re guilty. If not, let the truth also come out.

Bushbot on May 18, 2006 at 10:01 pm said:

I, Nancy Pelosi, do solemnly swear to support the troops…until it become’s political expedient for me to betray them (again) on national television.

And btw, I’m very impressed with the moonbats here not (yet) having called Brit Hume “the horrible scumbag, who many people consider somewhat responsible for the fact that his son committed suicide.”

congratulations on winning the tard of the year award. They support the troops. Which is why they want to BRING THEM HOME BACK TO THEIR FAMILIES. THEY ARE IN AN UNNECESSARY WAR. ARE YOU SUPPORTING THEM TO DIE FOR AN UNNECCESARY WAR?

How about someone gets Murtha to promise to resign from Congress if these troops end up being found innocent?

We should condemn these troops IF they are found guilty, not before. Why is this so hard for you libs to understand?

The sooner Stretch Pelosi and Traitor Murtha are pushing up daisies, the better the country will be. I really believe these two a-holes are the enemy.

That’s supporting their agenda and using the troops to do so. Not supporting the troops.

For all their troop supportin the democrats do, they are awfully quick about condemning our military whenever they get an opportunity. One could think that they don’t care about the military at all!—that they’re just cynical opportunists. Oh, but that couldn’t be right…

I really believe these two a-holes are the enemy.

Ed Stankititz – the enemy flew planes in to our buildings on 9/11. The enemy is hiding out in Pakistan, not in the left side of the aisle at the US Capitol or in Iraq. You would do well to remember that, numbnuts.

[...] Now Nancy Pelosi is jumping on the Murtha bandwagon.  She can’t wait to exploit this, and can’t be bothered with waiting for the results of the investigations.  Why not?  Military personnel are such easy targets for politicians, since they aren’t allowed to stand up and defend themselves in a public forum.  The civilian leadership can say whatever they want, whenever they want about uniformed service-members without any fear from them talking back. My stomach continues to churn. [...]

It is not like it is just the Democrats that know this happened.

At least the Democrats will deal with the catastrophe, and not ignore it and “pretend” it didn’t happen.

I just want my government officials to tell me the truth for once.

How about you?

The truth has a liberal bias.

Saying you support the troops by bringing them home is like saying you support firefighters by keeping them away from the fire.

haha-

Don’t even go there:

“congratulations on winning the tard of the year award. They support the troops. Which is why they want to BRING THEM HOME BACK TO THEIR FAMILIES. THEY ARE IN AN UNNECESSARY WAR. ARE YOU SUPPORTING THEM TO DIE FOR AN UNNECCESARY WAR?”

Maybe this “liberally-biased truth” would be more convincing if it was all in caps – and with more “troops died for nothing” Vietnam-era retread parroting?

Thanks for playing.

I just want my government officials to tell me the truth for once.

you mean like the years 1993-2001?

Hey Paul Walker. Where are the WMD’s? Rumsfeld said he knew where they were, North, South, East, and West of Baghdad. Was he lying, or was he lying. Or was he lying? Or was he lying?

How many times do I have to paste it before it sinks in?

Liars.

Liars.

War

I have a test for all the righties.

Let me know how Saddam was a threat to us.

I am waiting.

When you get done explain to me what tens of thousands of people living in Iraq did to us to deserve death.

You can’t.

Murder is fine as long as it is “them” doing the dying right?

On 9-11 some folks decided it time for “us” to do some of the dying. Maybe they didn’t appreciate being treated like dirt, and wanted to show Americans that we weren’t the only people on earth. I know one thing is for sure. They didn’t attack us because they hated our “freedom”. They didn’t attack us because of “hollywood”.

They hate us because of people like Y-O-U!

They support the troops. Which is why they want to BRING THEM HOME BACK TO THEIR FAMILIES.

Ah, so it’s not just the moonbats having a surplus of spit then?

Well that’s good. Because you guys had me worried that you still don’t give a fuck about our troops!

So please pass my sincerest apologies for thinking that along to your anti-’unnecessary war’ protester friends outside Walter Reed.

THEY ARE IN AN UNNECESSARY WAR.

Yup. “All” wars. Oh, except for that war in the Balkans, of course.

Btw, any idea if or when President Blowjob had ever intended to bring THOSE troops home? Just curios.

ARE YOU SUPPORTING THEM TO DIE FOR AN UNNECCESARY WAR?

I support ANY fuckin’ war our troops fight in no matter what their fate may be, and will continue do so til’ the day I die!

And therein lies one of the many differences between your kind and my kind.

In response to #5, what if the administration knew for a fact that 4 planes would be hijacked by arab men on a day in Sept and flown into buildings. What could they have done? Ban all flights, not practical. Prevent all arab men from boarding planes? The ACLU would have had a fit. Even having the most detailed information of what was going to happen could not have prevented it without the loss of civil liberties for one group of people and the liberals would never have allowed that. Look at the fuss they are putting up because the Administration is doing what they can to prevent another attack by listening to possible terrorist calls.

Yes Moonbats the troops are still in the Balkans where there are people who also die and are also maimed but of course that’s okay with the Dems because it’s an honorable war. A Marine lives next door to me and I won’t repeat the salty language he was using last night about Murtha. I will say he thinks it’s a sin this man was ever a Marine. I also wondered why a picture of that Jack Ass and Al Franken showed up in the Army Times a week ago supporting the troops when they obviously don’t. Here’s a clue for most of you moonbats-the troops and their families are sick of support like Murtha’s, Kerry, Pelosi and all the others. All wars are stressful. My Uncles enlisted the day after Pearl Harbor and once they left for boot camp they didn’t come home until it was over over there. In face one of my Uncles passed his house on the train on his way from Fort Benning to San Fran on his way to the Pacific. So, you can pretend all you want but we know that you hate those who serve and that’s okay you have that right. I served and I have the right to call you what your are—Losers absolute worthless losers.

48 Yes Bushbot we know. As long as someone innocent somewhere is dying because our defense contractors need to make a little dough your am fine with that!

Kill Kill Kill Right?

As far as the Balkans are concerned, how many American Soldiers died stopping the genocide? I met relatives of the people killed in the Shreberniza massacre. They love America.

If we invaded Iraq to stop Saddam from killing innocent people (which we all know he did) then maybe Bush should have not said anything about imaginary WMD’s. Then we could have had a real debate on invading, or not invading. The whole country would be behind the decision.

I was for the invasion. I was an idiot. I had no idea Bush, and his cabal were lying to me, my fellow Americans, our troops, and the whole world.

You would think people would hold a president accountable when he lies to take a country to war.

Only real Americans have a problem with Bush’s lies. His sheep are too busy bleating out their fear.

#49 Hey Rose. Every time a plane has been hijacked since the #70’s 2 military jets have been scrambled. Every single time 100%. Until 9-11. On 9-11 4 planes were hijacked, and someone had to give the order to break military protocal to scramble the jets.

There is no way the official 9-11 commission report’s accounting of events could possibly have happened. It is impossible. Buildings don’t just fall down.

Who gave the order “not” to scramble?

Who turned off the 2 separate defense systems to prevent a plane from flying into the Pentagon?

Why did building #7 just fall down. It just fell down. One minute it was standing there, and then the next minute it just fell down. It musta been tired right?

I’m sure if it was reported that one of the Iraqi women who was slaughtered by American forces was pregnant conservatives would be outraged and calling for the deaths of those soldiers.

So Hello. Do you appreciate it when your president lies to you? We all appreciate your service. You should be double pissed when you are lied to.

You remember this speech in Buffalo right?

“[a]ny time you hear the United States government talking about wiretap, it requires … a court order” and that “[w]hen we’re talking about chasing down terrorists, we’re talking about getting a court order before we do so.”

http://mediamatters.org/items/200602010008

Hello here is a whole web page full of lies Bush told.

Easy access.

http://www.buzzflash.com/contributors/03/07/22_lies.html

Dan, it is obvious you believe the conspiracty theory that exists concerning 9/11. If you were to logically and intellectually consider all that would be involved in the execution of 9/11 as the conspiracists claim you wouldnt even consider it. But after seeing the affect of 30 years of liberalism on our society I am not surprised that people like the conspiracists exist. Intellectual and rational thinking is not part of their persona.

joe(#17)....your tolerance and “intelligent conversation” are just what I would expect out of a libs mouth. F’n hypocrite. Grow up. young lady

War can not and will not be won if every covert action is publicized and scrutinized by the press.

X

Well Dan, I seriously doubt you appreciate mine, my husband’s or anyone else’s service in the Armed Forces. However, Bubba was a liar too. I don’t feel the need to look at stupid left wing websites with their negativity. Let’s see. . . why don’t you just look at them all day and you can drown in your hatred for the President. I’m sorry you’re still so upset that Gore and Kerry lost but such are the breaks. Unfortunately we will probably have the Hillarybeast for the next 8 years beginning 1/20/09, and you can bet your ass I’ll be out there protesting the first time she sends our troops ANYWHERE and I better see your Moonbat ass out there as well.

howardd(#39) said, “The enemy is hiding out in Pakistan, not in the left side of the aisle at the US Capitol or in Iraq.” They ARE also on the left side of the aisle. “You would do well to remember that, numbnuts.”

Bush’s Claim

Iraq has 500 tons of chemical weapons:

– Sarin gas – Mustard gas – VX Nerve agent

Reality

Not True

Zero Chemical Weapons Found

Not a drop of any chemical weapons has been found anywhere in Iraq.

http://www.buzzflash.com/contributors/03/07/22_lies.html

Is that so?

Gallon of Sarin in Iraqi Artillery Shell

05/18/2004

BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN)—A U.S.-led coalition convoy in Iraq found sarin gas in an artillery round rigged as an improvised explosive device, Brig. Gen. Mark Kimmitt said Monday.

Tests on an artillery shell that blew up in Iraq on Saturday confirm that it did contain an estimated three or four liters of the deadly nerve agent sarin.

Sarin is a nerve agent used for chemical weapons.

The detonation of the device in Iraq resulted in a small dispersal of the nerve agent, Kimmitt said.

Two members of an explosives ordnance team were treated for minor exposure, he added.

U.S intelligence officials in Washington said the shell was discovered Saturday near the Baghdad International Airport.

Still, I’m sure you Rats have it on very good authority (from your ‘hunch’ police) that there’s not a drop more than the gallon or so that our boys found there two years ago today.

Right Dan?

dan you don’t even know what a WMD is…..and yes they have been found. Sarin/mustard gas, bombs, warheads ring a bell? Just not the stockpiles that were moved to Syria and god knows where else(When they hit again we’ll find out, you jackass…..just stick your head up your ass and then into the sand). then you can say, “see we should have been looking for WMDs.” What a naive jerk!! When your ass is burning in hell, you’ll be wondering??....damn shoulda seen that one coming”

Rose knowing a steel framed building fell down for no reason is not a conspiracy theory. It is a fact.

And yes just think. A shell from the pre-1991 war was found. Instead of weapon of mass destructions it was just slight discomfort.

As far as weapons going to Syria, there was no evidence found according to the Pentagon’s own investigation that Saddam moved WMD’s to Syria.

dan…
calm down.
Bush declared war on staeless terrorists and said (to thunderous bi-partisan applause) that he would go after state sponsors of terrorism… if you fund, give harbor or safe passage to terrorists you are on the list.
bush took clintons list, dubbed it the axis of evil and decided the leadership of Afghanistan and Iraq needed to go. Saddam for some reason played coy about whether he still had WMD and bush decided not to chance it.
So he threatened us with WMD’s he didn’t have… how frickin dumb is that?
So…. to make it simple for you…. Saddam was a threat because he… threatened us. Wow.
how hard was that.
If I threaten you, then I am a threat to you. There ya go.

Some of the thrity thousand that died were Iraqi military fighting for Saddam, some are “freedom fighter” insurgents, terrorists. Willing if not always able combatants.
Most of the rest are police who have been murdered, people who have been suicide bombed in mosques, markets, schools, beheaded and executed.
A fair person would declare the people who actually cut off the heads to be responsible, not a third party… but you do what you need to do there dan.
The people that the US has killed which we call “collateral damage” or even perhaps murder if circumstances are right… well that is indeed an enormous tragedy.
One of the truly difficult things in life is the loss of the innocent… of course the left cheapens the purity of this great loss by making political hay out of it (so shame on you), but regardless of the cheapness and insincerity of the left this part is truly tragic.

dan(#51)...if Bush lied then Clinton, Clinton, Kennedy, Daschle, Gore, Albright, R Clarke, Reid, Pelosi, and the list goes on, all lied. You are the dumbest of asses. Look up the definition of liar and you will see a picture of Bill Clinton

dan what about the sarin/mustard gas? Just can’t leave that out? Just like a lib. Ignore an obfuscate. You are so WRONG!

I really can’t wait until November. This administration has turned into a complete joke with the worst policies and approval ratings in history. The only people who still defend the president now are complete idiots who can’t come up with an original thought and listen to Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity like they are Gods. We recently had Reagan’s NSA director Lt. Gen William Odom from 85’ to 88’ write in Foreign Policy that we should just get out of Iraq now. It is a civil war and a loss. You conservatives (the remaining half that still would rather see our troops die than admit error) won’t admit it is over because of you are to stubborn to admit the left was correct all along. It has been three years, the Iraqi government is useless, there is no end in sight, and we can’t lose anymore credibility than we have already lost. Now we have a war crime because of terrible strategic planning by Bush’s cronies.

In the meantime, a schoolroom just got a freshcoat of paint and the msm won’t cover it.

dan on May 19, 2006 at 1:41 am said:

Rose knowing a steel framed building fell down for no reason is not a conspiracy theory. It is a fact.

And yes just think. A shell from the pre-1991 war was found. Instead of weapon of mass destructions it was just slight discomfort.

As far as weapons going to Syria, there was no evidence found according to the Pentagon’s own investigation that Saddam moved WMD’s to Syria.

Your 9/11 conspiracy theories are a joke, but so is the case for war on WMD’s now too. Some stockpiles…and also the U.S. has officially given up on looking for them…unlike the bible-bangers here, they will admit they aren’t there to find. Only Hannity and Rush keep peddling that Syria trash. I guess you can add that Iraqi general who is conveniently selling a book to advance his claims. I like how he stated that the sarin shell was found on the way to Baghdad from Syria…in other words, it was somewhere between Baghdad and Syria. Big deal.

This dan faggot is retarded even by liberal standards. I mean, this faggot is about as disease-laden as they come.

OMG, i’m gonna come and kick all your liberal asses once i finish my chores and im done working at McDonalds!

…in other words, it was somewhere between Baghdad and Syria. Big deal.

So “zero chemical weapons found and not a drop of any chemical weapons has been found anywhere in Iraq” = Gotcha Wingnuts! But a sarin shell found IN IRAQ = Big Deal.

Well alrighty then. That’s a big 10-4 and all clear on the Rat-speak LtntWolfe.

Thanks.

Dan:

I have no idea why you still bother posting comments on this site.

NOBODY in their right mind is going to take anything you say seriously because you have proven time and time again that your wacky politics are about as far to the Left as Fidel Castro.

Is there a Republican conspiracy theory that you DON’T embrace and spew as the truth?

Seriously, nobody with common sense cares what you think.

First and foremost, regardless of whether Murtha is a Democrat or a Republican, the man deserves respect for his military service.

We should ALL feel that way no matter if we are talking about John Murtha, John McCain, or (GASP!) John Kerry.

However, I think his tactics and subsequent undermining of our effort in Iraq is deplorable.

He is using terrible judgment by doing this stuff and military veterans should be the LAST members of society to repeat unproven allegations that can further subject our guys and gals over there to more unnecessary violence.

We owe our freedom to all of those heroes from the past, present, and future. Without their bravery and sacrifice, we have no freedom.

The troops themselves have performed magnificently over there and they undoubtedly deserve the benefit of the doubt until they are found guilty of wrongdoing in a court of law.

We have learned from past experiences that allegations are NOT always proven to be true. Others have correctly stated the incident where the US soldier shot an “unarmed” man in a mosque was acquitted of any wrongdoing after all of the evidence was introduced in a military hearing.

Let’s not forget the infamous story alleging that US soldiers flushed the Koran down the toilet at Gitmo.

As we all know, the story was retracted and proven to be false, but the terrible damage it caused had already been done.

I don’t care what side of the political aisle you are from, those men and women deserve the benefit of the doubt until the facts come out and are convicted of a crime.

Any politician who publicly convicts them before the investigation and trial is complete are anti-American, and frankly, subhuman as well.

So, you can pretend all you want but we know that you hate those who serve and that’s okay you have that right. I served and I have the right to call you what your are—Losers absolute worthless losers.

Looks to me like someone is so embittered, she can’t even see straight.

Do go on with the sweeping judgements. That never gets old. Oh, and hate. Talk to us more about hate. You seem to be an expert on the subject.

Can i just get confirmation from one of the conservatives on this site that the question

‘Who gave the order “not” to scramble?’

constitutes a conspiracy theory.

What about ‘Why did building #7 just fall down.’ ?

As yet i’ve not seen any evidence to suggest either of those questions are stupid or rediculous.

As soon as my shift at Cinnabon is over, Im heading downtown to kick the shit out of a few Marines!

Wait…I have a potchouli delivery I have to be home for, and my bed under the kitchen sink needs to be tidied up…then I have to mend a rip in my hackysak…but after that Im going to kick Marine ass!

Let me call mom down at the ‘Beads N’ Stuff’ store first and make sure its ok with her.

Can I get an answer from the liberals why they cant understand how incredibly chaotic and confusing it was on 911? That people were trying to get things done with absolute bedlam happening all around?

Liberals are morons…they create conspiracy theories so as not to accept that there may be people out there who really are monsters.

That idea doesnt support the multiculturalist myth that all people are peace-loving if you just give them a chance.

“Dems Obsessed With Bashing Troops About Haditha”

You are fucking idiot Ian, and there is no hope for you.

herbsman Said:
7:30 am [ Quote ]

“Dems Obsessed With Bashing Troops About Haditha”

You are fucking idiot Ian, and there is no hope for you.

You are obviously a master wordsmith and your debating skills are quite impressive…FOOL!

Unfortunately, this is a political platform for the Dems who find another opportunity to take advantage of our troops(the opposition); before trial.

Sadly, this ploy further divides the country which at the same time denigrates the efforts of our military in trying to get a handle on these terrorists.

Furthermore, the recent historical efforts of the Democrats (Clinton and the 4/5 attacks), combined with the piddling, flacid and feeble plan(s) of John Kerry, proves that we would have been susceptible to more attacks had they been in office.

The grandstanding of Murtha and Pelosi is shameful, but it seems apparent that the Dem plan is to divide and conquer.

If they take office, we could be headed for third world status. Education is a farce; immigration is an impotent joke; homeland security was a joke before Bush.

Oh yeah, for you libs…...BellSouth has just demanded a retraction of the USAToday, unsubstianted story. Chew on that for a while.

This just shows how far Democrats and liberals will go to bash and dishonor our troops.

You would dishonor our brave troops by grouping them with these cold blooded murderers?

Sounds to me as if Rep. John Murtha just wants to remove some bad apples from his corps.

U.S. Rep. John P. Murtha has dedicated his life to serving his country both in the military and in the halls of Congress. He had a long and distinguished 37-year career in the U.S. Marine Corps, retiring from the Marine Corps Reserve as a colonel in 1990; and he has been serving the people of the 12th Congressional District since 1974, one of only 131 people in the nation’s history to have served more than 30 years in the U.S. House of Representatives and one of only 224 Members of Congress who have served 30 or more years.

Dallas…..your right with trying to remove some bad apples…...but his method is deplorable and denigrating and demoralizing for military personnel.

#72 Hey Anaconda. If you think Murtha is undermining our efforts in Iraq you should see what “your” president is doing. You think we couldn’t train enough Iraqis to take over security by now, if we really planned on leaving?

There are many people that think our presence in Iraq is helping the insurgets recruit. They also say that instead of rebuilding the country, every indicator is that violence is increasing, and not decreasing. Our presence there is not helping anything, and is actually hurting. Since violence is only getting worse because of lack of leadership in our White House, and Pentagon what is the point of staying? I blame the Iraqis some too, but it was us that “opened the gates of hell”, not them.

We need help in Iraq. We need to engage all the other countries in the region, and get them involved in finding a solution. We need real leadersip, and not the same old tired rhetoric.

Maybe people like Murtha will get the ball rolling in the right direction. So far it has only been rolling in the wrong direction, and our troops are paying the ultimate price, for the lies, and incompetence of the lying chimp.

#79 Hey USN666 divide and conquer? In 92 Newt Sleazebag liar set down a rule for the house of representatives. No talking to Democrats. Do not socialize with Democrats at all.

It was Newt, that started the disastrous division of our country.

Look it up.

By the way, what is congress investigating at this time?

NOTHING

All the corruption, arrests, indictments, pleas of guilt, scandals, and profiteering, and not one single congressional investigation?

This is the type of government you conservatives want?

And you call me a communist?

Danny…....you gotta calm down…..I don’t think anyone should be grandstanding at the expense of hammering someone without evidence or before trial (that includes Newt)......take it easy and try not to hyperventilate…..catch your breath…...you seem to be more interested in finding fault or misdeeds than I (a Republican) am…...you’re looking for something to point the finger or at the very least an accusatory judgement…....and you call us fascists…...I believe Uncle Adolf and his band of merry loonies were prosyletizing in an effort to paint some folks for their beliefs or political tendencies also…....be careful about the chicken little screeching.

Be PROGRESSIVE like your party claims and come up with a plan for our future. At least at the time, Newt and the GOP proposed the “Contract with America” that had some feasible and reasonable initiatives.

Great idea Dan, lets ask the Syrians and Iranians if they will help out in Iraq since they have such interest in seeing democracy take hold on their doorstep.

Im thinking Iran would be willing to help, of course they may demand a few nuclear weapons in exchange, but hey anything for the cause, right?

Get back to your broom and leave the real work for the rest of us.

Hey USN666, you have to forgive Dan for his Daily Kos rant. He was kicked out of the Cub Scouts when he was eight and now (10 years later}, he blames the military for that “terrible event” instead of taking responsibilty for his actions.

Talk about “Exposing the Left”, just read the comments on this site. Thanks Ian!

senoralbertogonzalez on May 18, 2006 at 10:19 pm said:

Bushbot on May 18, 2006 at 10:01 pm said:

I, Nancy Pelosi, do solemnly swear to support the troops…until it become’s political expedient for me to betray them (again) on national television.

And btw, I’m very impressed with the moonbats here not (yet) having called Brit Hume “the horrible scumbag, who many people consider somewhat responsible for the fact that his son committed suicide.”

congratulations on winning the tard of the year award. They support the troops. Which is why they want to BRING THEM HOME BACK TO THEIR FAMILIES. THEY ARE IN AN UNNECESSARY WAR. ARE YOU SUPPORTING THEM TO DIE FOR AN UNNECCESARY WAR?

Unbelievable!

NO, they DO NOT support the troops and the mission.

We have an all VOLUNTEER military.

Our troops know their mission. They understand the mission.
They want to complete the mission.

They DO NOT want to come home
before the mission is complete and sit around waiting for the next terrorist attack to kill their family and countrymen. They want to come home with the honor they so richly deserve.

Our military made their choice of profession, whether temporary or permanent. I support them and their noble mission.

God Bless our brave military!

dan on May 19, 2006 at 12:22 am said:

Hello here is a whole web page full of lies Bush told.

Easy access.

http://www.buzzflash.com/contributors/03/07/22_lies.html

HELLO - here is a “whole page” of documents about Saddam’s WMD programs and intentions to use them.

http://iraqdocs.blogspot.com/

From the Latin, the translation for “left”:

sinister -tra -trum [left , on the left hand; wrong, perverse; unfavorable, adverse]; sometimes, in augury, [favorable]. F. as subst. sinistra -ae, [the left hand]; also [the left side]. Adv. sinistre, [wrongly, unfavorably].

This seems to characterize Pelosi and Murtha.

#90,
Far-right = “Fascist”

This seems to characterize Cheney and Bush.

Dan, Per, and all you other lefties, I don’t hate you I pity you. It’s always the fault of a Republican whatever happens. I guess you can easily let off all the Dems do. It seems to be that liberals are the most intolerant of people in the country. So, again, I don’t hate you but I pity you and saying you’re a loser is not hate speech. Because we know that most of those on the left really do despise those who serve because they think they must be stupid because if they could do something else they would. It’s sorta the old adage “those who can do, those who can’t teach”. I happen to also be a teacher as well and see the same type of sarcastic respect towards that profession as well. So, have a happy, Aloha Friday.

Attention on deck all you Democraps…...read this. This is the regard you have for the military:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/04/12/AR2006041201947.html?nav=rss_opinion/columns

Murth is lower than whale shit and that’s on the bottom of the ocean.

howardd at 91…..read my 85….it pertains to you too.

Because we know that most of those on the left really do despise those who serve

I honor those who serve. I despise those chickenhawks who send those who serve in to battle based on cherry-picked intelligence and without proper planning or body armor.

Some of the prominent chickenhawks include Karl Rove, Dick Cheney, Dennis Hastert, Tom Delay, Roy Blunt, Bill Frist, Trent Lott, Rick Santorum, John Ashcroft, and Newt Gingrich.

I despise all those people but since they “did NOT serve”, this is evidence that I do not despise those that serve. So you are wrong.

#93
Too funny. You try to make a point about the regard democrats’ have for the military and you say Murtha is lower than whale shit in the same gasp.

Jack Murtha is a 37 year career marine with a bronze star and two purple hearts. You disgrace yourself, your Country, and whatever service you have performed which I’m confident is pale in comparison to the sacrifice that Mr. Murtha has made for America. If you had a conscience, I’m sure you would find shame in your rhetoric.

howardd on May 19, 2006 at 12:28 pm said:

#90,
Far-right = “Fascist”

This seems to characterize Cheney and Bush.

Would that such histrionic were so: You’d be at Gitmo by now.

The projection of the left never ceases to amuse and astound.

Let’s see, the whole point they are attempting to make here is based on the assumption that these fifteen Marines are already guilty of “Cold Blooded Murder” (Murtha’s own words) before investigation and/or courts martial has had a chance to find out what has happened.

THAT is facism.

.

howardddddddddd @ 97…..you definitely have to be an offspring of Howard Dean….

I don’t care about Murtha’s 37 year record (most of which happened to be in the reserves).

The point, which you missed entirely, was in the referenced article and what he did and is doing to our military service people.

He is whale shit and that’s a nautical term from the USN and you are proof positive that human reproduction is feasible through anal intercourse…....you’re an idiot…...get a life.

Far-Left = Nazi’s
This seems to the characterize all Liberals / Leftists / Socialists

I meant howardddddddd @ 96…....didn’t mean to step on my zoomie budd up there.

Nancy Pickle Lips Pelosi is another leftist looser.

I don’t care about Murtha’s 37 year record

#100,
And there’s proof positive that idiotic blowhards such as yourself really couldn’t give a damn about those that serve.

Are you always this stupid or are you making a speical effort today?

Murtha writes for the Flufflington post…need I say anymore!

howarddddddd @ 102…....

I can see that you had a sex-change operation and also changed your name from FRANK to HOWARDDDDDD. Hey, you can’t fool me.

I can see you haven’t taken your RITILAN today.

Hands down, you get the HOWARD DEAN AWARD.

Well, Hello, I can’t help but feel a little sorry for you, too, what with your sweeping judgements and all.

“It’s always the fault of a Republican whatever happens.”

“Because we know that most of those on the left really do despise those who serve because they think they must be stupid because if they could do something else they would.”

Although I agree that there are people that behave this way, neither of those things reflect my attitudes. This passing judgement on large groups of people without regard for their individual views really ought to stop.

Why it’s just getting fun!

I got it lets have another civil war, we can call it the Repubs Against The Dumbs ooops I mean Dems war.

usn wrote this? Be PROGRESSIVE like your party claims and come up with a plan for our future. At least at the time, Newt and the GOP proposed the “Contract with America” that had some feasible and reasonable initiatives.

It was a contract on america.

I hope you don’t get hurt or sick. Good luck getting medical care, or having bankruptcy help, if it is bad.

Thank a republican if you are someday eating out of trash cans, or can’t get medical care.

The only safety net out there is for large corporations.

Well what do you know, it’s Dan the Trash Mouth Man

No one beleives you Dan so why don’t you stop writing while you can.

@ #104

A young man with a wild and multi-colored hairstyle sits next to USN6872 on a park bench. USN6872 stares at the young man.

“What’s the matter, USN6872?” says the young man. “Never done anything crazy in your life?”

USN6872 replies: “Yeah. When I was in the Navy, I got really drunk one night and had sex with a parrot. I thought you might be my son.”

Dan means why can’t we have free health care like it works in Canada.

Why dont people eat the hot dogs at liberal picnics?

Because they taste like shit.

Ohhh that was really funny Howard The Duck.

I just don’t know what Howard is going to do for a face when that baboon asks for its Butt back.

howardddddd @ 111

Okay, I give up…..I haven’t heard that joke in a while and I appreciate the humor…..by the way, are you the kid with the multi-color hair cuz I did fuck a parrot somewhere on Carrib cruise.?

Oh yes Pers, you are the best, most wonderful, exciting person in the whole wide world! Yea! You tend to make pretty sweeping judgements yourself but that’s typical liberal do as I say, not as I do. Again, Happy Aloha Friday from the 50th State!

Hello, care to back that up? In any fashion whatsoever?

Yeah, I thought not. Who needs honesty when you can just baselessly impugn those you don’t like?

Who is your mother, and why didn’t she teach you common decency?

Dan:

Don’t you have an anti-war rally to attend, or some US soldiers to spit on?

I see that many Libs love to point out Murtha’s credentials and service in the military and everything that goes with it.

But, how many of you Liberals had ever HEARD of John Murtha prior to his crusade starting last Fall to undermine our efforts over there?

Unless you live in Pennsylvania, I would bet the ranch that MOST of you Dems who are now praising Murtha’s military record had never heard of him just 12 – 18 months ago.

That alone tells me that you support military veterans and their opinion when it is CONVENIENT for you.

Let’s not forget that it was the lunatic DEMOCRATS, not Republicans, who organized the violent anti-war rallies and spit at those very same soldiers they claim to support like John Murtha upon returning from Vietnam.

Since the end of Vietnam, Americans do not trust the Democrats with our military or our national security.

It’s not at all a coincidence that Republicans have had a strong edge over the Dems in the eyes of Americans for more than two decades on defense issues and protecting this country.

It is also not a coincidence that the vast majority of military veterans, along with current military personnel, vote for Republicans on each and every election and it has been that way for years.

Al Gore certainly knew it, which was why he had his team of lawyers attempt to throw out as many military ballots as possible from overseas during the Florida recount in 2000.

If you guys keep it up, it will be another 35 years before the American people trust the Dems with protecting our country.

Here is the deal. What happened is not acceptable. If someone in our government doesn’t come out strongly disapproving of the killing of innocent civilians publicly, the rest of the world will think our government approves. It should not take Democrats to condemn killing innocent people, just anyone HUMAN!

I know it is hard to understand how these things work, but righties are not known for understanding anything.

There are plenty of individuals that did great things early in life but then declined into crackpots.

Isn’t it possible for someone to spend all their moral capital?
Maybe like Cindy Sheehan…
Congressman Murtha…

We all have friends where we’ve said: “jeesh, I used to feel sorry for her, but the whiny screechy ill-tempered outburts while standing next to oppressive despots in Venezuela have started to wear on me”

Same goes for Murtha… his outbursts seem a little unhinged.. I mean it works for you guys but I think the rest of the country kind of wonders if it wouldn’t be ebtter to wait until the report is completely done

Dan:

You’re insane.

My problem with you and other Democrats like Pelosi and Murtha is that they are already publicly convicting these soldiers BEFORE a court of law has convicted them.

As I said before, the infamous NEWSWEEK article that alleged our guys at Gitmo flushed a Koran down the toilet was proven to be FALSE and then retracted by the author (Michael Isikoff).

Too bad the damage had already been done and the retraction was too late for the innocents killed as a result of a false story.

I’m not about to convict our soldiers when we don’t know what happened and don’t have all of the evidence at our disposal. They deserve the benefit of the doubt until a court of law convicts them.

If they are indeed guilty and convicted of a crime, then I will condemn their actions. Until then, you are subhuman if you convict them before they have their day in court.

I thought all Americans were INNOCENT until PROVEN guilty?

I guess that statement isn’t true for Dems who want to score cheap political points at the expense of our brave men and women in the line of fire.

Why the Hell do so many blowhard Dems trip all over themselves to defend a convicted killer like Tookie Williams, yet they publicly convict our US soldiers of murdering innocent Iraqis before they are convicted in a court of law?