Manchester, NH – Former vice presidential candidate John Edwards is telling supporters in New Hampshire he has “serious questions” about US Supreme Court nominee John Roberts.Edwards condemned the White House for withholding some documents that Senate Democrats wanted to get a fix on the personal views of Judge Roberts. Edwards says the papers are needed to review whether Roberts lobbied inside the government for socially conservative causes while working in the Reagan administration.
I’m sorry, didn’t you lose your campaign for the office of Vice President? What political power do you hold to “demand papers” and “ask serious questions”? Aren’t you one of us common folk now? Sit down and shut up.
UPDATE: I updated my post – a lengthy one – and it didn’t seem to go through. Anyways I wanted to say I made a mistake saying Edwards lost his re-election for Senate because he didn’t even run. However if he ran or not doesn’t matter, my point is still valid because he lost an election.
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4:32 pm [ Quote ]
Whul…wait Ian. Common folk are suppose to be part of the process…remember? Or have we lost total sight of what the US is about now, with no one honoring checks and balances anymore?
4:38 pm [ Quote ]
Yes people are apart of the process .. the process to elect those to represent our views. But Edwards still thinks he is a Senator or someone in power. We have plenty of people saying we need more documents – even though they haven’t reviewed the 60,000 + given to them – and we don’t need Edwards to chime in.
5:47 pm [ Quote ]
Can I just say something in general. When I was about your age Reagan was President, and while there were conflicts in this country, no one and I repeat NO ONE called anyone a “liberal whiner” back then. I just find the lack of decorum sad. Democracy is suppose to be about dialogue and the minority views having a say. I mean I feel like people are just forggetting what makes this country great. It’s about checks and balances, it’s about ALL voices and mutual respect.
I suspect part of it is in the 80’s the men in power, while they disagreed, had this mutual respcet of having been in a war together. So whether one was liberal or another conservative they knew better than to be arrogant (a sign of immaturity) and not listen to one another.
5:58 pm [ Quote ]
Everyone is allowed to have their opinions, even liberals. However John Edwards thinks his opinions matters more than our opinions, which is where I will draw the line. Who is he to get national attention over his opinion, when after all he is a regular citizen like you and me.
This isn’t a lack of respect. Why should I have more respect for him than I do for you or my neighbor? After all he is a regular citizen.
Now what was your point again?
7:33 pm [ Quote ]
Its sad that you have so little respect for the average person wanting to make a difference then. You say that he(John Roberts) should have no more respect of you than you have for Carolm or your neighbour, I’m sorry you have so little respect for ANYONE then if you have to resort to calling people “whiners” if they have a different opinion than you…..
The man served his country, he probably made a heck of a lot less money during that time than he would have in the private sector I’m sure… he has more experience than you, he’s older than you, and I’m CERTAIN he’s seen more politics and you….
I don’t know what Carolm’s point was… but you just got mine…
7:42 pm [ Quote ]
OH and just in case you’re forgetting a little HISTORY, some of the world’s GREATEST contributers to politics got “national attention” and were “common people” NOT politicians;
Martin Luther King Jr. WASN’T a politician, but got national attention
The Mahatma Ghandi same idea…
if it were up to people like you, nobody but a VERY small majority would be “worthy” of national attention when it came to politics by the sounds of your last post….
your NEIGHBOUR SHOULD deserve to get national attention… no matter WHO he is… because you live in AMERICA where ANYTHING is possible…
7:58 pm [ Quote ]
You do know that the comment area has a large space for a reason now don’t you?
I made it clear that I have respect for people. However when you lose two elections on the same night, I think it is clear that the American people have heard him and they don’t care what he has to say. There is already too many nay-sayers on Capitol Hill and we don’t need one more yahoo who again lost the respect by Americans.
Anyways why do I have to respect this guy? Can you please point out this written rule (I’m taking it that it is written) in the Constitution? Oh wait, sorry, forgot you weren’t American. As Vladmir Putin said, (paraphrashing here) “We stay out of America’s government decisions as we would expect them to stay out of ours”. Not to get too off subject but you have no room to criticize me when you’re government is so screwed up that it makes ours look perfect.
Who are you to say “you live in AMERICA where ANYTHING is possible”? You are a Canadian, you don’t live here, you don’t know how things work. No one can do anything they want. Just because you’re an American citizen that doesn’t give you the right to do anything you wish and an automatic megaphone to preach what you want to preach. We have free speech, but we don’t have something that gives us the right to say anything we want to say at anytime. There is a reason why we elect officials. We vote for the people who most reflect our views and hope they win. If they win they have a voice that is supposed to represent ours. Obviously Edwards’ voice doesn’t represent most people in SC and in America, because he didn’t win his Presidential or Vice Presidential run .
Why don’t you stick to the Natalee Holloway threads, they need your expert advice over there.
8:07 pm [ Quote ]
and newsflash: “we have free speech, but we don’t have something that gives us the right to say anything we want to say at anytime”
that made no sense EITHER…
and this doozie: “No one can do anything they want. Just because you’re an American citizen that doesn’t give you the right to do anything you wish and an automatic megaphone to preach what you want to preach”
actually Ian; you’re wrong, its BECAUSE you’re an American that you GET that very right… .GEEZ, its like YOU were born in Canada and had no clue…
speaking of which, I DO happen to LIVE in America, I’m not there RIGHT THIS SECOND before you blab about MY IP address like you do that of others… but I LIVE THERE…. I AM A DUAL CITIZEN and guess what….. I CAN VOTE…
AND as the right to free speech allows, I DON’T have to stick to the “natalee holloway” threads, which if you despise so much, or belittle the people that comment there; why even put them UP….
I’m sure more than HALF of the people that even COME to your sight comment on those threads… I wonder how well they’d take to your snide comments about people on those threads….
and as far as my expert advice goes… at least I’m an expert at SOMETHING… and care enough about politics to keep informed… and care enough to even BE on a conservative site to see what other people’s opinions ARE… I don’t have blinders on like you do; CONSERVATIVE blinders…. how do you contribute at ALL to your society if you only see one point of view…...
and having a condescending attitude towards the people that visit your site; NEWSFLASH not the way to go EITHER…
8:31 pm [ Quote ]
No just because you didn’t win election doesn’t mean your voice shouldn’t he heard. But just to clarify, he lost being elected to represent the Democratic party for President and he lost his run to being the Vice-President. But this man is acting like he has more of a voice than us, and that his opinion means more than ours. He is now a normal citizen no more or less than me or you. However he is abusing his “power” (he doesn’t have any, but the best word I can think of at the moment) as a past public official.
Every American has their voice heard when they elect people to represent their views.
I am not a big fan on counting my traffic but I don’t think I’ve had a big change on commenting after Natalee Holloway went missing. Things are slightly popular, but I wouldn’t say it is due to that .. just that it is growing.
I visit many liberal weblogs and sites. I am very good friends with the writer at Crooks and Liars and Talk Left. It is a very popular liberal thing to play the “you only listen to what your party” says card. It’s funny because that is what the Democrats do. Most of the trolls on blogs are liberals commenting on conservative blogs. In fact conservatives who comment on liberal blogs are eaten alive with put downs that make no sense. So please don’t go on telling me I only listen to the far right. I am a conservative but try to take a moderate view on almost anything.
And as far as the rest of your comment on “conservative blinders”, take your own advice. Just because you come here doesn’t automatically make you someone who listens to other’s opinions. You purposely come here just to
BTW: The expert comment was sarcasm incase you didn’t pick it up.
8:39 pm [ Quote ]
I picked up the sarcasm, which is precisely why its clear that you find the people that comment on the Holloway threads beneath you.
If you’re a moderate, I’d like to see what a REALLY devoted right winger is, since you tend to preface EVERY single comment made by a liberal in the media as “whining” heck; you even have a SECTION called “liberal whining”!
So I guess my answer to you is the same; just because you’ve been visiting liberal sites doesn’t make you a moderate either…..
I have stated a NUMBER of times that if I disagree with you, that I don’t mean it personally, but TODAY, you showed nothing but sarcasm and a general lack of restraint in my opinion for carolm with the comment above where you ended it with a snide remark; which is the reason why I posted to begin with, and then you were even ruder to me… as you’re being now….
8:48 pm [ Quote ]
Another liberal tactic .. on the offensive. When did I say this? I am very good friends with max. If you think because I am made you sometimes clutter up threads with off topic comments is a sign that i find you beneath you .. then you’re wrong. Excuse me for providing a FREE MODERATED (as in keeping out the trolls) area that costs me $150 a month and get mad that you have no regard to people who would like to comment on the TOPIC .. I am so sorry.
I didn’t say I was a moderate, I said I try to take a moderate view as often as I can. But I also point out where liberals put their nose in something they shouldn’t or just plain whining.
Where did I say: “since I visit liberal sites I am a moderate”. I never said that .. another liberal tactic, putting words into people’s mouths and making a huge deal out of it.
Hey when I see something that deserves a snide remark, I will say it.
8:58 pm [ Quote ]
Using snide remarks can often be an unfortunate crutch to lean on when other powers of literary expression are weak. Or perhaps when a person shows a lack of ability to restrain their emotions, also a sign of weakness….
I myself have been guilty of it here today, at least I recognize that, and don’t exhault in it….
I’m not trying to go on the offensive; you STILL haven’t said that you don’t think the Holloway posters are beneath you, though I’ve mentioned it twice now; although you DIDN’T neglect to mention that your traffic has not significantly increased just because of the case….hinting at what exactly?? I did see the comment you posted about people staying on topic on the Holloway threads, I actually didn’t FIND any off topic discussion on that particular thread, but it wasn’t even something I noticed on my own. Another poster on the Holloway threads pointed it out, and others have also noticed/ mentioned that they wonder about your level of appreciation for those bloggers….and I HARDLY qualify anything that is said on those blogs that’s “off topic” as being equivalent to a troll..
9:05 pm [ Quote ]
If I never said that I don’t find the Holloway posters beneath me then why should I say I don’t? That doesn’t make any sense, like your argument.
When people say “Hi are you here” and talk about general Natalee Holloway and not the birds eye view pictures then sorry to say, that is off topic. I am also a bit tiresome of explaining the point of registering on the forum. I am tired of having to moderate comments that have “spam” words in them. If you register, that wouldn’t happen. And that was a general comment.
9:19 pm [ Quote ]
“general Natalee Holloway”? I’m sorry, so even if the case is being discussed, but not necessarily the EXACT photo its considered “off topic”?? I’m sure if someone is asking “are you there?” its only so that they know to ask a question, or type a comment to the other person, knowing they’ll get a response. Aren’t you taking this specificity a bit too far??
9:33 pm [ Quote ]
A bit to far? Go to the VDS house thread and look at comment 1, 5, 8 .. not to mention the discussion of me wanting everyone to leave because of the wide comments, which is an argument that makes no sense.
9:42 pm [ Quote ]
seriously; these were the comments you mentioned from the VDS photo thread…. they were honestly just discussing the CASE… what other discussion should there BE?? I don’t understand, how do you fill an entire thread just talking about the photos specifically; I thought the Natalee threads were there so people could discuss the case… makes no sense why these comments were “off topic”:
Good morning all This is very interesting Ian. I wish I knew where to look for that well they talked about. I dont know what to think of a witness who comes foreward after this long and says he saw men dump a body. I mean why would he wait so long and not report it when they could have done something about it. Especially with all the publicity about natalee going on. Have a nice day max.
Comment by max — July 31, 2005 @ 8:53 am
That is why they are searching the land fill because some witness said he saw 3 men dumping a body. Or two men I dont remember which. They seem to think he is credible because he hasnt wanted money or fame. I know that searching that land fill will be nearly impossible to find her. Which house is vandersloots the one with the trees and the pool?
James where is the monkey ? max
Comment by max — July 31, 2005 @ 10:37 am
thanks for clearing that up. I new they were searching the dump, but did not know a witness had said anything. they did have a couple of hits with the dogs but it turned out to be bandages of some kind. I hope they find something soon. And where is that monkey? k
Comment by karen fuller — July 31, 2005 @ 10:44 am
10:16 pm [ Quote ]
This is very frustrating .. those comments had nothing to do with the neighborhood. You know why I am upset? Because there are people other than you – yes I know it’s a surprise. People would like to discuss or go through a thread related to the topic. Those comments were all off topic, so I don’t see your point. Those comments were about the wide blog, because of YOU! I don’t know what you’re doing but if you can’t comment normally you will not be able to comment at all. Use the “b-quote” tag in your comments that will stop it. If you don’t, I won’t be nice and fix the comment for you, I will just delete it.
10:27 pm [ Quote ]
That was the ONLY thing I ever meant if I commented on the “wide” blogs, I didn’t technically know how to fix the weird font. Then you told me to hit “i” that it was the same thing as the “em” was before, and now its B… you’ve never said “b” before, so I don’t know what you’re getting all upset at ME for… others commented about why the screen was going all wide as well..
As far as the comments posted above; I still don’t see why they are off topic. Its still on the topic of Natalee…. I don’t exactly know what comments one could MAKE about the “neighbourhood” other then; “oh look, that’s what the house looks like!”
I mean, the discussion was about the Holloway case…. except for font problems…. I still don’t get why we can’t just discuss Natalee’s case on these threads…
10:33 pm [ Quote ]
How hard is it to understand? Would you go to a thread about GWB’s vacation at his ranch but write about GWB on Iraq? It doesn’t make much sense, but that situation seems correct with your logic.
If you want to talk off topic Natalee, the n go to the forum. That is what it is for ..
12:04 am [ Quote ]
No, he didn’t run for re-election in ‘04. Richard Burr beat Democrat and former Clinton staffer Erskine Bowles for the seat. source
1:26 am [ Quote ]
He didn’t run for re-election:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/elections/2004/nc/
Moderated by Ian: Lets keep the conversation at the civil level it is at now.