July 31, 2005
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8:53 am [ Quote ]
Good morning all This is very interesting Ian. I wish I knew where to look for that well they talked about. I dont know what to think of a witness who comes foreward after this long and says he saw men dump a body. I mean why would he wait so long and not report it when they could have done something about it. Especially with all the publicity about natalee going on. Have a nice day max.
9:55 am [ Quote ]
That small shed north east of the monkey
is the exact vision I had of where they put Natalee. I’ve been searching over and over for Aruba house pictures and the Satellite ones are to small. I know it’s not their house but It’s what I saw. Have they checked it yet?
10:30 am [ Quote ]
Max, i had not heard of the witness saying that he saw men dumping a body,yours is the first. Ian, thanks so much for the pic, how in the world did you get it????? James, are you referring to the house on the left of the vandersloots home????? I am very new to all of this. Have a good day. Karen
10:31 am [ Quote ]
I dont know where the monkey is or even which house is vandrsloots. Do you know where the well is? max
10:37 am [ Quote ]
That is why they are searching the land fill because some witness said he saw 3 men dumping a body. Or two men I dont remember which. They seem to think he is credible because he hasnt wanted money or fame. I know that searching that land fill will be nearly impossible to find her. Which house is vandersloots the one with the trees and the pool?
James where is the monkey ? max
10:38 am [ Quote ]
Nice photo… The VDS property shows three buildings. Does anyone know what they are? I am assuming the smallest is Joran’s apartment and the middle one with all of the trees is the house…but what is the third building?
10:40 am [ Quote ]
this went all wide again max, I have NO idea why this keeps happening…. there was no “em” for me to click before or after the typing this time either… so I don’t know what to do about it…
10:44 am [ Quote ]
thanks for clearing that up. I new they were searching the dump, but did not know a witness had said anything. they did have a couple of hits with the dogs but it turned out to be bandages of some kind. I hope they find something soon. And where is that monkey? k
11:03 am [ Quote ]
hopeful canadian i guess move to the next picture down and post I dont know why this keeps happening. Maybe we were right yesterday max
11:11 am [ Quote ]
Ian why does the screen keep going wide on us. Are you trying to discourage us from posting in this way and move us to blogs for natalee? If so please let us know max
11:17 am [ Quote ]
hopefulcanadian
Are you still online i moved to the next picture down. So far its narrow maybe we can go back to where we were yesterday. max
11:37 am [ Quote ]
hopefulcanadian, “em” is now under “i”.
Apparently Ian wrote on another thread that he doesn’t know why this is happening.
12:56 pm [ Quote ]
excellent. I wonder how often helicopters are flying over their home now ? Hopefully it is a huge annoyance to them.
1:40 pm [ Quote ]
Helpful the “em” button is now the “i” button.
2:35 pm [ Quote ]
ok I will keep this one up Max Canada _ did Ian want us to move off the other thread? Jan
2:38 pm [ Quote ]
I didn’t say I want you to leave, but if you are not going to discuss the topic of this thread then please go to another one that fits the topic. It just confuses people who are wanting to discuss that topic.
2:38 pm [ Quote ]
That small shed north east of the monkey
is the exact vision I had of where they put Natalee.
Comment by JamesLast — July 31, 2005 @ 9:55 am—————————————————JamesLast my first vision of Natalie missing was a shed too, or dark, damp, enclosure of some-kind. Funny you mentioned that.
2:57 pm [ Quote ]
I reported it to the F.B.I. and to the Psychic Mary that was there in Aruba helping. I’m a little shy about psychic visions so I usually report them and then move aside. I’m always afraid of misleading the investigators. When i saw that pic i was OMG. I had seen the monkey cage before in the Greta pictures but I only saw the front of that neighbors house.
It’s been very hard to get any visions which gives me some hope she is still alive. I never see faces but i always know who the vision relates to. I think she was in there temporary while the neighbors were away. I’ve had no visions since then.
3:17 pm [ Quote ]
Can you see the two people standing under the large tree at the top? Looks like a man and a woman?
8:37 pm [ Quote ]
I still believe that Natalie is alive and on another island..I only hope someone is checking this out..
Her poor family..I hurt for them..God Bless Natalie and her family
10:25 pm [ Quote ]
Hi: Please no off topic discussion. If you would like to discuss anything other than the picture, the vds property, or the area around it please go to the Blogs for Natalee forum located here.
And no I am not closing down all Natalee discussion on the website, that website is just for off topic discussion.
Thank you,
Ian
11:04 pm [ Quote ]
Well it is just as I figured you want us to move our discussion over to the blogs for natalee. This will effectively split up the group of people we want to blog to from ever being on the same topic at the same time. This is what happened at scared monkeys and riehl world and now you are doing it here only in a slightly differant manner. max
11:20 pm [ Quote ]
Very interesting to see the property. The monkey cage is the octagonal (?) shaped roof. The neighboring house appears to have no roof shingles.
11:22 pm [ Quote ]
Do you know where the well is? Or what it looks like. max
11:54 pm [ Quote ]
I’m beginning to think that all these false reports and leads are diversions, to distract the search from the real target: Kidnappers. I suspect Natalee was sold to Kidnappers similar to those who got Amy Bradley.
What the family needs to do is send the reward message to every police department in South America and neighoring islands. It should be sent simultaneously and confidentially. No publicity, please—that might alert her captors and they would hide her or dispose of her.
For that kind of money, those officials would turn in their own mothers! I predict that immediately after receiving the messages, they will raid every brothel in SA. Then hopefully Mom Beth Tritty will receive a tearful, joyous phone call.
1:25 am [ Quote ]
Did anyone see the small pool next door, the plastic one like kids play in in the neighbors yard…Is it still there. If it is not when did it disappear? Does it match the description of the one found at the landfill.
Alabamamom
12:23 pm [ Quote ]
Chris or nan if you come on this picture please tell me where the well is on the vandersloot property if you know. Thanks Max
1:00 pm [ Quote ]
The Texas search team needs to get on that property, and search everything, and not have only certain pointed out areas. If you have nothing to hide, what’s the problem.
1:31 pm [ Quote ]
John I hear that.
Lindsay I agree with that 100% I also think john might be right about the diversion. But who knows. If she is in the land fill it may be hopeless.
Does anyone know where the well is in this picture? Is it viewable. Someone said the octgonal shape is the monkey. The plastic pool thing was mentioned by the witness. They are questioning the witness today with the voice analizer. max
1:44 pm [ Quote ]
The initial interrogation was at 2 AM in the morning at the vd Sloots. I think it was gracious of them to even let anyone in at that hour when the only incriminating evidence at that point in time was Joran was the last one NH was seen with. More searches later as well as curiousity seekers, sensational media, there’s only so much a person can take.
I must admit it does sound a bit strange though to only allow certain areas. If the crew is in, may as well search it all and be done with it to stop the speculation.
I wonder if they had lime in the shed?
1:59 pm [ Quote ]
good morning a..in c What about the lime? Oh I think its time they got another search warrant then it wouldn’t be like them stalking the vandersloots. Its the search from before that they allowed them only to search certain areas. I really wonder what and where this well is. Is it just a hole in the ground or is it covered with something. Or an artisian well. With the equipment they got now they might uncover where she once was before she was moved. Who knows. max
2:25 pm [ Quote ]
Max, hello. Lime will disintegrate flesh, (can’t think of the word I need there) I’m not sure about bones though, and I don’t know how long it takes. I haven’t heard of that being used in a very long time.Sorry, it sounds disgusting.
Since both the vd Sloots are still persons of interest you’d think a warrant could be obtained. If nothing else, at least to close the subject.
Any information that leaks out about the investigation becomes inadmissable in court proceedings (I had heard).
3:52 pm [ Quote ]
a….incanada, I had read, also, that any information that leaks out about the investigation becomes inadmissable in court proceedings, however, it would have to be proven that LE is the one that leaked the information.
3:59 pm [ Quote ]
Thanks, Melissa, for clarifying.
4:24 pm [ Quote ]
Well I am in the minority but unless LE is involved in a real warrant there is no way the Paul VDS should just let these equisearch people in to search his property – he would be very stupid to do that and he does not seem stupid. Since he is not even in jail or rearrested then I cannot see a warrant issued for another property search. I know everyone is curious but you just do not let people in like that just to satisfy curiosity! Besides they still have not even rearrested the Kalpoes based on all that pond stuff and witnesses from last week – is it possible all that we are hearing through the media is not as big a deal and reliable as they are making it look? Jan
4:57 pm [ Quote ]
The texas team should be allowed to go on to the property. The Van Der Sloots, to me, are suspects. The only thing lacking is evidence, but its very poss that evidence may be at the Van Der Sloots home. Natalee could be on the property, but I honestly think they just kept her there, to find a better place to dispose of her body. Also, I heard that Paul Van Der Sloot has also resigned from being a judge in training?
4:58 pm [ Quote ]
I don’t blame PVS one little bit for not allowing Tim Miller and his team onto his property. Do you want to know why???
I’ll give you the simple and plain truth….BECAUSE THEY COULD PLANT ANYTHING THERE THAT MIGHT BE INCRIMINATING TO THE VDS’S and if I were PVDS I wouldn’t trust Tim Miller as far as I could throw him in watching his constant crazy, nutty comments to the media. He doesn’t know whether he is coming or going. He can’t give an intelligent point of view about any of this.
5:02 pm [ Quote ]
Jan I think the new equipment and the missing girl still being missing should be enough for a new warrant. Especially if they were not allowed to search it all the first time. Only thing is that the L E needs to be the one to iniciate the search. I agree if I was paulus I wouldn’t let them in there. Especially since I think he may be afraid some trace might still exhist. All Speculation, She has to be somewhere??? Sure wish they would eliminate the places completely when they do a search. Nobody knows where the well is. I wish they did. That land fill is another place she might lay forever if shes there. max
5:06 pm [ Quote ]
Lime is not used to disintegrate the flesh per say, its used to keep the smell of the decaying down so that the corpse does not give away its location. The location of the well on the VDS property is not significant, JVDS is smart enough not to drop a body into his own well! They have a pool, the muratic acid used in pools along with other pool chemicals would be better suited than lime!
5:24 pm [ Quote ]
I really don’t think Tim Miller or anybody else would go plant something that would be incriminating towards the Van Der Sloots, beacuse that still dosen’t bring them any closer to what really happened to Natalee, just search the property and move on so they don’t waste time, the only waste of time is getting the warrant to do so.
6:01 pm [ Quote ]
I’m not interested in the well at all; if anything had been down there, would have shown up on the F16 scanner I would think.
The Equusearch team, although they have some good equipment and trained dogs, are not a professional team, and yes, they shouldn’t be going in anywhere alone but with the LE if they do go in again. I was also skeptical of some of Millers comments awhile back. My idea of a complete search was to discount the rumors and speculations.
Pvd Sloot, of course knows his rights and can deny the search, yes, until such time should he be re-arrested.
I have a difficult time believing he had anything to do with disposing of a body in the first place.
As for the lime, I threw that in to illicit comments because posting seems to be alot slower since the threads have changed, Thanks, salada, for your explanation.
With all these dead end leads causing the LE to waste valuable time, I believe the people with this new evidence should be arrested for misleading the authorities.
9:07 pm [ Quote ]
Really makes one wonder about the misleading leads – I do not think she is on the VDS property and I too questiong whether Paul had anything to do with her disposal. Who knows she could be alive and well on another island! Jan
9:38 pm [ Quote ]
Jan, this is strange! Back about a month someone posted that everyone is looking at all these difficult to imagine scenarios when it could be something simple. Body in the ocean not plausable for many reasons, and searches on land come up empty by the best methods. I can’t imagine a simple solution.
Have these misleading, time consuming leads sprung up to divert LE?
12:07 pm [ Quote ]
I don’t know if there is a simple solution or not – I am just still not convinced that they are going down the right path—after reading Riehl world on TE - and Tim Miller I certainly would not allow them to search at all if I were the VDS!! – This case is a huge mystery – and who knows where all these leads and tips are coming from now – reward money or just to mess up the investigation ???? Jan
12:47 pm [ Quote ]
I also read Riehl the other night; I was floored at the commentary. Considering if that is true of Miller, he was a stalker who destroyed a presumably innocent man’s life. TJ WArd another story, a wannabe who plans to sell the story. I like to give people the benefit of doubt; people can change, but from what I read I wouldn’t want any of them on a case for me. And yes, if PvdS knows of that info, well I don’t blame him either for not letting any on his property. I had wondered, after reading that article, whether there was any stalking going on at the vd Sloot residence. I feel for both sides, there’s big loss bilaterally no matter how you look at it.
Hey Max, what’s up man? How are you today? I saw a very short post of yours, have you given up?
I’m checking back later. Not much blogging since the change.
1:10 pm [ Quote ]
Well incanada there certainly is a lot of questionable people that come to the forefront and considering how much TJ is supposedly charging – hmmm kinda makes you wonder what his motives are – Miller seems like one bent on revenge – and there are people that want to punish one for another similar situation – you can bet Paul VDS knows all of this – that is probably why he has hired his own PI to investigate – would have liked to have caught Catherine Crier last nite – she had the VDS PI on – going head to head with TJ!! Jan
1:27 pm [ Quote ]
Just read this on Gretha Blog, a reaction from Diane Bazzano from New York, the last e-mail, number 4
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,164484,00.html
1:30 pm [ Quote ]
Jan, I hope there is a recap of that show, would certainly like to see the two PI’s face off. We could certainly use another view. I’ll check Riehl later on for it. Have spent too much time cruising these sites, must go.
2:13 pm [ Quote ]
All I can say is I 100% share the sentimennt of Diane Bazzano on that fox post – every single thing she said is so true!! I am appalled with the way these stations go after every tiny minute detail of this story each and every nite and if I see Beth and Jug on tv one more time I am going to scream! Enough already – as for Miller & TJ I think both are in this for their own motives – and Jossy is nothing more than promoting his scandal rag! I just do not think that the Holloways realize how they too are being used by other aspects of this case than LE. If you actually read other posts on other sites and read about some other people involved here you get a much different picture than just watching FOX and the other media outlets each nite! Again great post – only wish I could let Diane know how strongly I feel about what she said!! jan